03-09-2009, 08:31 AM
Location: South Carolina
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maybe the housing will drop in the future, but it's never going to be midwest cheap, and it shouldn't be. it's 65 and sunny here in January!
It really should be as cheap as the actual market for home ownership (as opposed to property flippers, speculators, etc.) makes it. Pensacola, FL is 65 and sunny in January and is not expensive at all. It really should be all about how much demand is there for people to live in housing in a city versus how much supply of housing is there and how much it actually costs to build a house. Chicago is midwest but in no way cheap, due to high demand and low supply. San Diego should be as cheap or expensive as its supply/demand characteristics dictate. And unfortunately, flippers and speculators had totally skewed the reality of those characteristics.
03-09-2009, 08:43 AM
Location: Arizona/Massachusetts
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I would say the Tampa Bay area. Its definitely not San Diego but it has the Metro Area by the ocean location, especially on the Pinellas county side. Sarasota is another one. Both locations certainly are fair weather locations in the winter and cheaper cost of living. Sarasota though can be quite expensive but cheaper than Calif. No place though could match San Diego, but those two locations I mentioned are the closest I can think of. Good Luck.
03-09-2009, 08:52 AM
Location: South Carolina
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Never having been, but taking a stab at a possibility or two: Wilmington, NC or Savannah, GA. Can anyone comment on these?
Wilmington is a smaller city far removed from everything else but with nice weather. The downtown is classic and nice. Savannah is hot and humid in the summers and to me personally is more fun to visit than live. The downtown is classic and very nice. Visited both, lived in neither. I actually prefer Greenville, SC to either of those.
Nowhere else in the US has weather like SD outside of other California cities. SD has what is described as a mediterranean climate, and very few places on earth have it. The cities on the Mediterranean Sea do, the coastal Australian cities of Melbourne and Perth do, a small section of South Africa, and parts of Chile. And that's it for the entire world.
03-09-2009, 09:01 AM
Location: stuck
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i just moved to san diego from chicago. granted chicago is a big, expensive city compared to most of the midwest, but i couldn't be happier. the key to happiness here is you MUST alter your thinking if you aren't rich. forget about a 3,000 sq foot house. think more in line with a 1,500 sq foot house and know that the outdoors is an extension of your house. i believe happiness is found at the beach, in the nearby mountains and desert, and knowing you live in a pristine climate. it's a sacrifice you have to be willing to make to enjoy it here. maybe the housing will drop in the future, but it's never going to be midwest cheap, and it shouldn't be. it's 65 and sunny here in January!
Thank you! will you please tell that to my wife so she'll know that I'm not the only who thinks that way. I enjoyed reading your post, and hope to one day live in SD. visiting just isnt enough for me anymore.
03-09-2009, 12:08 PM
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San Diego (Souther California) has the best weather in the country, so if you leave here you will not not find it elsewhere...that's something you would have to accept. Everyplace else will either be too hot, too cold, too humid, too buggy, too rainy, too dry!
03-09-2009, 11:57 PM
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San Diego and san diego county has the best weather in the world,unlike any other.thats why everyone wants to live here.There really isnt any other place to compare.....AZ and TX plain suck....way too hot.
03-10-2009, 04:03 AM
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I grew up in Long Beach, CA, lived on Long Island NY for 20yrs. and now live in Raliegh, NC for 3 yrs. You have no idea how good you have it in SD. I would cut off my right arm to move to SD.
03-10-2009, 10:51 PM
Location: Hunkering down atop Shasta
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Hi all,
I love it here in San Diego and have lived here for a few years but the problem is that I cannot afford to buy a decent home here. Anyways I am looking into a city that has similar qualities but affordable home prices. Would a place like Tampa or Miami be a good place to live and buy?
Mixxalot, if you're still looking in on this thread ...... has the housing meltdown made San Diego affordable for you? I hope you didn't have much of your savings invested in stocks.
03-10-2009, 11:56 PM
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Any town in Florida that is not ridiculously hot and humid is far away from the beach and usually are very small towns.
All towns in Florida are ridiculously hot and humid. The very north part of Florida is pretty mild about half the year but I wouldn't suggest it if you want a similar culture to where you are now.
03-11-2009, 08:02 PM
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Perth, Australia is supposed to be very much like San Diego in climate, geography, lifestyle, etc. A little far, though
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