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Old 06-07-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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It's not just the city of SD that has more registered Democrats, it now applies to the entire County. SD County is no longer blue, it's more purple these days.

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And as Sassberto mentioned above, socially, it's not conservative here.
Maybe not in the city but I've encountered plenty of socially conservative people in the county
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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Also another thing, people think Republicans are fiscally conservative. The first thing they do is start wars while in office. How is that saving money? I would rather my money go towards the betterment of all Americans than fighting unneeded wars. Plus look at the economy under Democrat Clinton and then look at it under Bush. Until Republicans spend my money how I want, they don't have my vote.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:28 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Also another thing, people think Republicans are fiscally conservative. The first thing they do is start wars while in office. How is that saving money? I would rather my money go towards the betterment of all Americans than fighting unneeded wars. Plus look at the economy under Democrat Clinton and then look at it under Bush. Until Republicans spend my money how I want, they don't have my vote.
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Old 06-07-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Lemon Grove, CA, 91945
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Also another thing, people think Republicans are fiscally conservative. The first thing they do is start wars while in office. How is that saving money? I would rather my money go towards the betterment of all Americans than fighting unneeded wars. Plus look at the economy under Democrat Clinton and then look at it under Bush. Until Republicans spend my money how I want, they don't have my vote.
I dont know bradleyyo, I think you might have it back words and putting the cart before the horse.

Voters that think fiscally conservative look at who runs on that type of agenda and it 'tends' to be Republicans. Some voters are just lazy nad will just stick to the party because back in the 50s and 60s the ideals may have been a different.
But there are PLENTY of fiscally conservative Dems as well. Look at who runs the Ways and Means committees and CBO. Its bi-partisan.

If you hadnt noticed, politics and party politics are changing decade by decade. "Independent' party types are going to screw things up for the two party system for a while because voters see both sides of the story and are necessarily ok with just being tied to one party anymore and like the autonomy.

As far as wars go, dont think for a minute that we are NOT setting up for war or 'defense' in the Asia Pacific. Some investing advice right now would be to start buying in the Defense sector and go long. Stocks are on sale right now.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:01 PM
 
Location: East Fallowfield, PA
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I found this chart interesting.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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There is a huge difference between public and private unions. If I don't want to buy a product that is being sold by a union shop I don't have to, and I rarely do. I can't opt out of fire protection even if I have a fire truck in my driveway.

If you have skills you don't need a union as your skill set sets the wages and benefits based on demand. I'll NEVER need a union to ensure I make a decent wage.
sounds like you'd get rid of the minimum wage too. it isn't about skills any more. cheap employers will pay whatever low wage they can get away with while so many jobs have gone OVERSEAS.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I always question corporations that constantly want to cut employee's wages and benefits even when these specific companies are raking in billions of dollars in profits.

It comes to a point where we need to ask corporations are you really cutting your workers wages because your company is in serious red ink? Or are you doing it to strictly satisfy your shareholders since they are barking at you to do whatever it takes to keep there own greedy pockets full?
That's really it in a nutshell for me. I realize that you want to maximize shareholder return. But there's a right way and a wrong way to do it.

Henry Ford is famous for paying his workers far more than the going wage because he wanted them to be able to afford his product. And he made a nice profit despite this.

Organizations that have unions on site have done something to get the employee base fired up enough to want one on site. You don't agree to cough up two percent of your paycheck if you're being treated well.

I think that instead of trying to take away pensions from those who have them, we should be asking ourselves why the hell we aren't demanding those from our employers.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Rolando, San Diego CA 92115
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sounds like you'd get rid of the minimum wage too. it isn't about skills any more. cheap employers will pay whatever low wage they can get away with while so many jobs have gone OVERSEAS.
It's hard to imagine anyone so stupid as to outsource police and fire, but should we pay an accountant at city hall 90% of salary for the rest of their life? Some jobs are more important than others, right?

I'll never pay a union to represent me. They don't even know me, how could they represent me? I'm pretty good at representing me.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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should we pay an accountant at city hall 90% of salary for the rest of their life?
i don't get how you came up with that from what i said. not even close.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Bay Area
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If you hadnt noticed, politics and party politics are changing decade by decade. "Independent' party types are going to screw things up for the two party system for a while because voters see both sides of the story and are necessarily ok with just being tied to one party anymore and like the autonomy.
so far all the independents i've met either vote republican or not at all.
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