SD still a Republican stronghold? (San Diego, Commerce: wages, living, prices)

[Sassberto]

Originally Posted by 5thgenSF

i don't get how you came up with that from what i said. not even close.

You might not be up to date on the current state of The City of San Diego and its obligation to its public employee unions?

[5thgenSF]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

You might not be up to date on the current state of The City of San Diego and its obligation to its public employee unions?

you are right.

[shmoov_groovzsd]

Originally Posted by MovingAloha

I found this chart interesting.

Looks like we might due for another spike based on the chart if history is any indicator.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by 5thgenSF

sounds like you'd get rid of the minimum wage too. it isn't about skills any more. cheap employers will pay whatever low wage they can get away with while so many jobs have gone OVERSEAS.

I wouldn't change the min wage law though I'd probably lower it. If you are in the labor pool that has to compete with illegal alien labor then you are indeed between a rock and a hard place. I'm all for arresting, fining and jailing ANYONE who uses illegal alien labor. And yes, it is still all about your skill set.

Originally Posted by 5thgenSF

so far all the independents i've met either vote republican or not at all.

Then you're meeting Republicans not Independents. Independents vote on issues and are strong in certain beliefs. They don't see political parties as ways to impede their voting strategies.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

It's hard to imagine anyone so stupid as to outsource police and fire, but should we pay an accountant at city hall 90% of salary for the rest of their life? Some jobs are more important than others, right?

I'll never pay a union to represent me. They don't even know me, how could they represent me? I'm pretty good at representing me.

Police and Fire should be the only jobs getting pensions. To think there are tree trimmers and janitors leaving the tax payers on the hook for their pensions

[oddstray]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Police and Fire should be the only jobs getting pensions. To think there are tree trimmers and janitors leaving the tax payers on the hook for their pensions

How would you suggest tree trimmers and janitors fund their retirement?

[5thgenSF]

Originally Posted by oddstray

How would you suggest tree trimmers and janitors fund their retirement?

thank you! good question. god forbid they give the same benefits to the LOWLY janitor.

[shmoov_groovzsd]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Police and Fire should be the only jobs getting pensions. To think there are tree trimmers and janitors leaving the tax payers on the hook for their pensions

I hope you arent implying that Police and Fire somehow do work that is not on the same playing field as tree trimmers or janitors.
Now you are creating inequality issues of merit and pay based on fixed pension costs paid for by tax dollars. Shame!

As far as retirement plans, the current proposal seems to make sense for SD City incoming new workers and the 401k style funds. Unfortunately its almost impossible to avoid riskwiht investing. What I want to know is, who will be managing those funds and what is available to the employees in being able to utilize them? Will it be something that an employee can access online and pick and choose or will it more like annuity?

[bradleyyo]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

I wouldn't change the min wage law though I'd probably lower it. If you are in the labor pool that has to compete with illegal alien labor then you are indeed between a rock and a hard place. I'm all for arresting, fining and jailing ANYONE who uses illegal alien labor. And yes, it is still all about your skill set.




Then you're meeting Republicans not Independents. Independents vote on issues and are strong in certain beliefs. They don't see political parties as ways to impede their voting strategies.

Man! you really hate those illegal immigrants! if any corporation hires them, it's usually to do crappy stuff like washing laundry which no one else will do. Immigrants are not the ones that make millions every year like the CEOS.

You are correct about Independents too! I am an Independent. (though I usually vote Democrat) I refuse to vote party lines. There are good politicians and bad on both sides. One party doesn't have all the answers. That's why I like Nathan Fletcher because he echos my thoughts exactly.

[shmoov_groovzsd]

For anyone that lives in El Cajon, how did you vote on Prop D? If you voted, were you a registered Repoublican, Dem or other?

El Cajon becoming a charter city will be very interesting in regards to development.

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