08-16-2012, 11:22 PM
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I am moving to San Diego in the next few months and have some questions. I will have a starting salary of 70-80k and be working downtown near union st. I have around 50k to use for a down payment on a home and have no idea where to start looking. My wife is a medical student and will not have a decent income for a few years, no children, 3 small dogs. I dont care if we live near the beach or inland. I would like to keep my commute around 40 min or less each way. I own my vehicles, and have no real debt so a good amount of my income can be used for a mortgage. I like alpine so far, but wouldnt mind a place downtown either. I want a single family home, I am not looking for a condo. I am also a veteran and can use my VA loan. Thank you for any help.
08-17-2012, 07:37 AM
Location: Mission Hills, San Diego
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I would not buy until you have really explored the area. It will take years to recoup any losses if you buy something then move to something you like more, or better suits your needs. Since your wife is a med resident, you could have moves ahead of you once she is done. Where is her residency? You might want to think about renting near her location. Also downtown and alpine could not be more different, you definitely should starting thinking about what it is you actually want.
08-17-2012, 09:18 AM
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I would also suggest holding off until you are here for awhile and get to know various areas of SD. There are so many different towns, all with their own unique "personalities". I don't see any rush to buy right away and since you obviously have saved for this next step in your life, waiting awhile would hurt and could avoid a big financial mistake. Not much land here as far as yards go, so having 3 dogs you'll need to probably look in the outskirts. I know it probably pains you to think of "throwing money away" on rent, but it will save you alot of money in the long run, IMO.
08-17-2012, 10:34 AM
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I just can not find any rentals for less than 1300-1500 a month. If I buy a home for 200-300k im gonna pay about the same monthly with current interest rates and a down payment. I have profits from other properties and I can avoid taxes if I reinvest my profits into real estate so buying is a sure thing for me. My wife is starting PA school at the beginning of next year and we are not even sure if she will come to San Diego with me or finish her school in Las Vegas. I was just offered a job in San Diego that will get my foot in the door for some long term career goals so I need to go. She might start her school in CA or she will just move to CA 2 years later after school. I understand that alpine and downtown are very different, I would like to have some land though. I think if I found a house downtown I would need a property with at least 6500 square feet of land. My father was a contractor my whole life and I can do all renovations myself if I find a fixer upper. How far inland can I go and expect a 45 min or less drive to downtown union st.? Thanks
08-17-2012, 01:03 PM
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Tons of places are 45 min drive from downtown....you name it. You should take a trip out here first for 3-5 days and drive around with a realtor.
08-17-2012, 01:24 PM
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I plan on spending a few weekends in San Diego before hand but I would just like ideas on where to begin. My wife and I are in our late twenties with no kids so we like going out to dinner often, shopping, Movies, etc. Although we like to grab drinks on the weekends I would not want to live near any bar district that has students partying and causing headaches regularly. I know that parking is also limited, would it be a good idea to sell my 4 door full size GMC and buy a car or jeep? I cant see any reason a big truck will be necessary living in San Diego.
08-17-2012, 01:25 PM
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I would recomend the eastern area of Chula Vista. Eastlake, Otay Ranch, etc. It is fairly new, safe, clean and home prices are lower than those in the north county suburbs. Plus it should be a reasonable commute to downtown San Diego where you 'll be working.
08-17-2012, 01:29 PM
Location: 92037
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Take a look at a map and go east of downtown on the 94.
East San Diego neighborhoods (Golden Hill, City Heights, Encanto), Lemon Grove, La Mesa, Spring Valley, Rancho San Diego, El Cajon (in that order)
You can find houses there along that strip for those prices and be fairly close to downtown without a lot of traffic on the 94.
While these neighborhoods and cities are not 'postcard' San Diego they are diverse but our version of middle class, blue collar whatever you want to call it, safe areas for the most part. Houses can range from grandiose (Mt Helix) to dumpy in terms of stock.
I live in Lemon Grove. Quiet and quaint. Housing is ticking up out of your range though for the nicer properties but you can get a decent sized piece of property in the areas listed if that is what you are looking for.
Try this site and simply hoover over each respective area to get a feel for what I am talkig about.
http://www.sdlookup.com/Market_Map-San_Diego
It would be wise to visit first as the others have said and then decide if renting or buying works for you. No question that I would rent (like most of us) first then get a feel for areas to buy in. SD is all over the board when it comes down to where and what you are able to buy.
Its hard not to want to live along the coast when you see it. But the real question is, when real life kicks in and you plan staying the long haul, is that a top 3 priority for you at this point in your life in relation to the pricetag?
For many its the main reason they move here, for others, its not. Depends on who you ask
08-17-2012, 01:40 PM
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Thank you for the info! I am not sure the timeframe that I must buy to avoid paying taxes on my profits from other real estate I sold but renting might be out of the question. I am not planning on buying without spending several weekends searching for something I want to live in. I am not too concerned about living on the coast, I have no problem living 15-25 miles away from the coast. I think my max will be 350k when I buy, I planned on putting 50k down but I can squeeze a little more if its absolutely necessary.
08-17-2012, 07:42 PM
Location: Santaluz - San Diego, CA
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I'd listen to the advice of the others to just RENT for a bit of time before you buy. Get it out of your head that if you are going to be renting and paying the same it's a waste of money. It's NOT a waste of money if you buy the wrong property in the wrong area or something that ultimately you're not happy with.
Slow down a bit and rent something even if it's more expensive then what you pay for a mortgage. You do NOT have to rush to buy something and the low interest rate environment isn't going anywhere this year and next year either. The Federal Reserve already signaled low interest rates are going to be around all through 2013 so I wouldn't worry about rushing on something. And if you're selling a primary residence and lived in it for at least 2 years you can get a capital gains tax exclusion for $250,000 ($500,000 if you're married). So don't rush on anything and think you have to be forced into buying something quickly or even at all. You won't pay any capital gains taxes on the sale of your primary home unless you made more than $500,000 on the sale which won't apply to almost everyone out there selling except the mega wealthy.
The worst mistakes I've seen on real estate transactions have been when someone rushed into something. Listen to the excellent advice people are giving you. Especially when you are giving such broad choices from Alpine to Downtown! That's quite an extreme. Take your time and rent for a while and take it slow.
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People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)