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Old 10-29-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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Very Odd Hire
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SAN DIEGO (AP) -- The San Diego Padres hired Arizona Diamondbacks third base coach Andy Green as their new manager, two people with knowledge of the situation said Thursday.
The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the team wasn't scheduled to announce the hiring until 3 p.m. PT Thursday at Petco Park.
Green takes over a team that underachieved despite general manager A.J. Preller's aggressive offseason roster makeover. The Padres finished 74-88 and fourth in the NL West, 18 games behind the division champion Los Angeles Dodgers.
San Diego has had five straight losing seasons and has missed the playoffs for nine straight years.
The hiring of Green gives Preller the chance to continue to remake the team. Preller, hired in August 2014, fired manager Bud Black on June 15, when the team was 32-33. He replaced Black with Triple-A manager Pat Murphy, who had no big league experience. The Padres were 42-54 under Murphy.
Murphy was fired the day after the season ended.
The Padres were a disappointment. Despite the addition of stars such as Matt Kemp, Justin Upton and James Shields and a bump in payroll past the $100 million mark for the first time, the Padres had their worst finish in four years.
After firing Murphy, Preller said he was looking for ''a better fit going forward.''
Green completed his first season on Arizona's big league staff in 2015, and his 12th season in the Diamondbacks' organization. He was 219-189 in four seasons as a manager in Arizona's farm system
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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and so it goes
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:26 PM
 
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Seems weak move again, like in Seattle last week.
Could have been:
Donnie Baseball. Ron Washington. Dave Roberts, Harry B. Black, Mr. Derek Jeter, Tek Jason Veritek, Lloyd McClendon
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:28 PM
 
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Seems weak move again, like in Seattle last week.
Could have been:
Donnie Baseball. Ron Washington. Dave Roberts, Harry B. Black, Mr. Derek Jeter, Tek Jason Veritek, Lloyd McClendon
Yep!
Though the padres would never hire a Black or Hispanic Manager, even if they were over qualified.
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Old 11-01-2015, 10:29 PM
 
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Edison Volquez will be wearing a WS ring.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:56 PM
 
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You buy an onion you get an onion. Even Bruce couldn't win in this town. Another yawner...
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Old 11-03-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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Bud Black Talk his way out of a job
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Last Wednesday Bud Black agreed to become the Washington Nationals manager, with seemingly everything wrapped up and just the i’s to dot and the t’s to cross. It was such a done deal that the Washington Post was writing articles with headlines like “What’s next after the Nationals’ hiring of Bud Black?” This morning the Nationals announced Dusty Baker as their new manager.
In the intervening days, Black’s deal had apparently turned rotten. Last night Jon Heyman reported that not only had negotiations between the Nationals and Black hit a snag, but the Nationals had actually offered the job to Baker, their presumed second choice. The hang-up with Black? Money.
Bob Nightengale reports that Nationals GM Mike Rizzo offered the job and Black accepted it without the two first securing an agreement on the terms of the contract, most importantly the money. According to Nightengale, the Nationals’ paltry offer was for a single year at $1.6 million. (The terms of Baker’s contract haven’t been reported, but it was announced as a multiyear deal.)

Managers in baseball don’t typically get paid like their counterparts in the NFL and NBA, but the Washington Nationals are notoriously cheap for MLB, and favor short-term deals. Here is James Wagner summarizing their cheapskatedness:
The Nationals have been reluctant to pay top dollar for managers in the past. Their standard practice has been two-year deals with options, which Matt Williams, Jim Riggleman and Manny Acta signed. Riggleman made $600,000 his final year as manager in 2011. Even veteran manager Davey Johnson worked under a shorter-term deal. He made $4 million his final year as manager in 2013 after much lower pay before and had a modest consulting year added on for 2014. Williams, fired the day after the 2015 season ended, was due to make $1 million in 2016.
For a bit of context, Nationals owner Ted Lerner is the 86th richest person in the world with an estimated net worth of $5.9 billion, and the Nationals’ $165.5 million payroll in 2015 was the fifth-highest in baseball.
Bud Black isn’t blameless for his predicament. It’s no secret that the Nationals lowball managers, so he probably should’ve gotten the basic terms agreed upon before he committed to the job.
That being said, what the hell are the Nationals doing here?
Whatever you think of Black—and considering they tried to hire him, presumably the Nationals think quite highly of him—he’s had eight-and-a-half years of experience as a manager. He wasn’t going to accept a one-year offer, and probably wasn’t going to accept a $1.6 million annual salary. Don Mattingly, a less experienced manager than Black, just got a four-year, $10 million deal from Jeffrey Loria, perhaps the only baseball owner cheaper than Lerner.
http://deadspin.com/dusty-baker-name...-ou-1740226658
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Old 11-03-2015, 09:34 PM
 
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What do you mean? Sounded like the terms were not good.
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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What do you mean? Sounded like the terms were not good.
yea
Now that i found out the whole story, looks like they low ball all of their managers.
Dusty must have been happy to just have a job. They are going to rule the day they hired Dusty over Bud. He burns though pitching staff like nobody's business.
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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Confirmed failed organization letting go Dave Hero Roberts and hiring Mark Cheat McGwire. Chargers are a failure as well.

Last edited by bloom; 11-24-2015 at 10:41 PM..
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