Taking bets on the Chargers Chiefs. (Vincent, Orland: rich, best, rain)

[AADAD]

Well there is a rumor that the little thugs from Oakland are heading to San Diego if the Chargers leave. Add air sickness bags to the stadium

[dexter75]

Originally Posted by AADAD

Agree. McCoy is history.

No he's not. Literally half the team is hurt. What do you expect when you have backups and guys off the practice squad playing?

[hitman619]

Originally Posted by dexter75

No he's not. Literally half the team is hurt. What do you expect when you have backups and guys off the practice squad playing?

Every Team in The NFL has injuries.
The Chargers are no worse than anybody else, and as a mater of fact they are one of the healthier teams in the NFL according to this list from a month ago.
Ranking the most banged-up NFL teams from 1-32
The Chargers are number 23 in injuries out of 32 teams. 22 Teams have more injuries than the Chargers
Poor Coaching and poor drafting are the problems here. Why would you go in the Draft needing a Pass rusher and end up drafting, a Overrated running back and a undersized Linebacker
The errors that this GM and Coaching staff have made, brought you guys to what you have here today a 2-8 football team.
As a Raider fan i know about losing and why you lose.

[sdlife619]

Originally Posted by hitman619

Every Team in The NFL has injuries.
The Chargers are no worse than anybody else, and as a mater of fact they are one of the healthier teams in the NFL according to this list from a month ago.
Ranking the most banged-up NFL teams from 1-32
The Chargers are number 23 in injuries out of 32 teams. 22 Teams have more injuries than the Chargers
Poor Coaching and poor drafting are the problems here. Why would you go in the Draft needing a Pass rusher and end up drafting, a Overrated running back and a undersized Linebacker
The errors that this GM and Coaching staff have made, brought you guys to what you have here today a 2-8 football team.
As a Raider fan i know about losing and why you lose.

Also the ownership for allowing such mediocrity on the field with a GM that doesn't have an eye for super stars. I've never seen such an undisciplined Charger team in so long, and to play so badly as they did coming off a bye on LT day of all days, tells me it's not just the players anymore that suck, but the coaches. I defended Mccoy for the longest time because I thought it was ONLY the players that was the problem, but no. The Chargers are barely in games now, and struggle hard just to score TDs is a serious concern.

I honestly can't see them winning anymore games this year.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

Also the ownership for allowing such mediocrity on the field with a GM that doesn't have an eye for super stars. I've never seen such an undisciplined Charger team in so long, and to play so badly as they did coming off a bye on LT day of all days, tells me it's not just the players anymore that suck, but the coaches. I defended Mccoy for the longest time because I thought it was ONLY the players that was the problem, but no. The Chargers are barely in games now, and struggle hard just to score TDs is a serious concern.

I honestly can't see them winning anymore games this year.

McCoy became successful when Manning became QB. I could have been coordinator and won when Manning was calling his own plays.

[sdlife619]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

McCoy became successful when Manning became QB. I could have been coordinator and won when Manning was calling his own plays.

I know right.

Manning IS the entire offense. He doesn't need coaches telling him what to do. I think the hype surrounding McCoy because he worked with Manning probably was what obviously caught the eye of Telesco. I mean, nobody saw this trainwreck coming to be honest. But now given the fact this is McCoy's 3rd year as a HC and the team has progressively gotten worse, even some of the younger players have regressed, is a sign that this coaching staff isn't able to get things under control.

And who would've thought this O-line was going to be so bad, when you have guys like King, Orlando, Joe, and Fluker, one of the biggest O-line in the league in terms of size, being so fragile, and easily overpowered by other D-lines in the league, be so bad?

My thought in all this, is sometimes size isn't what matters in how a player performs and how well he plays, but his technique, smarts, reliability, determination, and ability to make impact plays regardless, is more valuable than physical size alone. Look at Woodhead, he's one of the smallest dudes on the team, but yet he is the most durable, and probably one of the best players as far playmakers go compared to anyone else on that team right next to Keenan Allen.

The talent level is subpar, the last time the Chargers had a dominating defense for instance was the days of Shawn Merriman, Donny Edwards, Shawn Phillips, Jamal Williams, Antonio Cromartie and others. And of course the great offensive players in LT, Gates in his prime, Vincent Jackson, Mike Turner, Sproles, LO Neal, Kris Dielman, Marcus McNeil, and I know I'm missing others, but you guys get the point.

They might as well blow up this team and start from scratch because there's nowhere else to go when you hit rock bottom besides upward as this point.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

I know right.

Manning IS the entire offense. He doesn't need coaches telling him what to do. I think the hype surrounding McCoy because he worked with Manning probably was what obviously caught the eye of Telesco. I mean, nobody saw this trainwreck coming to be honest. But now given the fact this is McCoy's 3rd year as a HC and the team has progressively gotten worse, even some of the younger players have regressed, is a sign that this coaching staff isn't able to get things under control.

And who would've thought this O-line was going to be so bad, when you have guys like King, Orlando, Joe, and Fluker, one of the biggest O-line in the league in terms of size, being so fragile, and easily overpowered by other D-lines in the league, be so bad?

My thought in all this, is sometimes size isn't what matters in how a player performs and how well he plays, but his technique, smarts, reliability, determination, and ability to make impact plays regardless, is more valuable than physical size alone. Look at Woodhead, he's one of the smallest dudes on the team, but yet he is the most durable, and probably one of the best players as far playmakers go compared to anyone else on that team right next to Keenan Allen.

The talent level is subpar, the last time the Chargers had a dominating defense for instance was the days of Shawn Merriman, Donny Edwards, Shawn Phillips, Jamal Williams, Antonio Cromartie and others. And of course the great offensive players in LT, Gates in his prime, Vincent Jackson, Mike Turner, Sproles, LO Neal, Kris Dielman, Marcus McNeil, and I know I'm missing others, but you guys get the point.

They might as well blow up this team and start from scratch because there's nowhere else to go when you hit rock bottom besides upward as this point.

You are right. Look at this mess. Dead LAST in the NFL. Even worse than the lowly Browns.

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[hitman619]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

I know right.

The talent level is subpar, the last time the Chargers had a dominating defense for instance was the days of Shawn Merriman, Donny Edwards, Shawn Phillips, Jamal Williams, Antonio Cromartie and others. And of course the great offensive players in LT, Gates in his prime, Vincent Jackson, Mike Turner, Sproles, LO Neal, Kris Dielman, Marcus McNeil, and I know I'm missing others, but you guys get the point.

They might as well blow up this team and start from scratch because there's nowhere else to go when you hit rock bottom besides upward as this point.

Most of those guys, including Marty Schottenheimer, were drafted or brought in by John Butler before he pass away.
John Butler knew how to put a together a super bowl team. If Butler were still alive, Marty would have never left, and you guys would have at lease 2 super bowl wins.

[dexter75]

Originally Posted by hitman619

Every Team in The NFL has injuries.
The Chargers are no worse than anybody else, and as a mater of fact they are one of the healthier teams in the NFL according to this list from a month ago.
Ranking the most banged-up NFL teams from 1-32
The Chargers are number 23 in injuries out of 32 teams. 22 Teams have more injuries than the Chargers
Poor Coaching and poor drafting are the problems here. Why would you go in the Draft needing a Pass rusher and end up drafting, a Overrated running back and a undersized Linebacker
The errors that this GM and Coaching staff have made, brought you guys to what you have here today a 2-8 football team.
As a Raider fan i know about losing and why you lose.

I don't care what the stats say. Take most the starters off any offensive line, their two starting WRs, their star TE, best CB and a few other key defensive players and lets see how well any team does Just look at the Packers. That offense has struggled without Nelson and they have Aaron freaking Rodgers! Take Cobb off that team too and their top O line guys, as well as some key defensive starters and see how well they do.

[hitman619]

Originally Posted by dexter75

I don't care what the stats say. Take most the starters off any offensive line, their two starting WRs, their star TE, best CB and a few other key defensive players and lets see how well any team does Just look at the Packers. That offense has struggled without Nelson and they have Aaron freaking Rodgers! Take Cobb off that team too and their top O line guys, as well as some key defensive starters and see how well they do.

I'm not going to google it for you but, the
packers have had 2 O-lineman go down this season
Face it, Your last 2 GM's suck at evaluating talent why even argue.
Buster Davis and Manti Te'o