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Old 04-30-2017, 07:40 PM
 
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While San Diego is one of the most conservative cities in California, I will admit that one factor that helped my decision to leave the Midwest (besides the weather) was the politics of California. I'm a left leaning Independent who likes what comes out of San Francisco (plastic bag ban, etc. etc.) so personally I wouldn't mind if CA broke off from United States into the country of California - broken into two (maybe three) states: Northern and Southern California. Sacramento will be one capitol and Los Angeles will be the other one.
And I totally support that. If you support big government then California or one the Northeastern states is for you.
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Old 04-30-2017, 07:48 PM
 
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Hey I am not trying to offend you but you are just inaccurate. None of these far left places are hemorrhaging people. The real estate and job market are better than they ever have been. Bidding wars in LA, NYC, BOS, SF, Seattle even SD happen every day. They are also safer than they ever have been. They are also cleaner. Look at the facts: any urban area in CA is safer than any urban area in SC. Yes, it's expensive. Yes, it's difficult for a middle class family to live there. But they are not hemorrhaging people. I like to live in a lively, walkable area and I hate car ownership. The only area I could do that in SC would be Charleston and it is just as expensive as CA, Boston or NYC with no job opportunities . Don't hate on me because I feel differently than you.
Of the top 10 fastest growing states, only, Nevada and Colorado and Washington voted for Hillary, i.e left leaning.

Maine, Connecticut, Vermont and Illinois, all are at the bottom of population growth and Vt and Illinois actually have a negative growth rate. WV, was the lone state to vote for Trump in the bottom five.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...on_growth_rate

P.S. I don't hate anyone.
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Old 04-30-2017, 07:48 PM
 
Location: New York City/San Diego, CA
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And I totally support that. If you support big government then California or one the Northeastern states is for you.
Thank you. I love America and have complete faith that we can put together a fair government that provides fair health coverage for all and educational opportunities. Maybe just not with the current administration but I am very thankful that it is the lowest rated ever in our history.
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Old 04-30-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: New York City/San Diego, CA
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Of the top 10 fastest growing states, only, Nevada and Colorado and Washington voted for Hillary, i.e left leaning.

Maine, Connecticut, Vermont and Illinois, all are at the bottom of population growth and Vt and Illinois actually have a negative growth rate. WV, was the lone state to vote for Trump in the bottom five.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...on_growth_rate

P.S. I don't hate anyone.
Oh come on just stop it. Who is talking about Maine, Connecticut, Illinois or Vermont? GE just moved their headquarters to Boston. Seattle is the number 1 city to find a job followed by San Francisco. Yes, they are crazy expensive no one is denying that. But you are grasping here. Growth means good jobs. South Carolina is not a place to find a good six figure job. It's relatively easy in Boston, Seattle, NYC but the cost of living is relative.

Seriously stop it. And I'm glad you enjoy SC.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:08 PM
 
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Oh come on just stop it. Who is talking about Maine, Connecticut, Illinois or Vermont? GE just moved their headquarters to Boston. Seattle is the number 1 city to find a job followed by San Francisco. Yes, they are crazy expensive no one is denying that. But you are grasping here. Growth means good jobs. South Carolina is not a place to find a good six figure job. It's relatively easy in Boston, Seattle, NYC but the cost of living is relative.

Seriously stop it. And I'm glad you enjoy SC.
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Facts are now considered "grasping"? lol

While not 6 figures, I made $85k in sales last year, since cost of living is quite inexpensive here, it is more than comparable to 6 figures in liberal, high tax states.

This is condescending and unnecessary.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:10 PM
 
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Thank you. I love America and have complete faith that we can put together a fair government that provides fair health coverage for all and educational opportunities. Maybe just not with the current administration but I am very thankful that it is the lowest rated ever in our history.
Nowhere in the Constitution does it list "healthcare coverage" as the governments responsibility. But hey, that's why you're a lib and I'm a conservative.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:12 PM
 
Location: New York City/San Diego, CA
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OK let's talk facts?

So in the list you sent...what is your take on liberal Washington outpacing the growth in conservative South Carolina? Or very liberal Massachusetts outpacing the growth in conservative New Hampshire? Those are the "facts"?

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Old 04-30-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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Nowhere in the Constitution does it list "healthcare coverage" as the governments responsibility. But hey, that's why you're a lib and I'm a conservative.
Hmmm. I do consider myself a liberal but I'm also conservative. I don't gamble or do Vegas. I make a good income now but I consider health care a human right and I want to know that my family will be taken care of if something happens such as a car accident or getting hit by a bus. I guess you don't feel that way but you do feel that owning a gun is a human right. Correct me if I am wrong. This is where we disagree.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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OK.

So in the list you sent...what is your take on liberal Washington outpacing the growth in conservative South Carolina? Or very liberal Massachusetts outpacing the growth in conservative New Hampshire? Those are the "facts"?
Look at my status: Lobbying is a billion dollar industry and is legalized bribery. Washington produces nothing but egomaniacs, but due to big $$$$ it is filthy rich. It's a darn shame.

Regarding Mass, I would assume that the vast majority of growth is in and around Boston, NH doesn't have anything close to a major urban city such as Boston.
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Old 04-30-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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Nowhere in the Constitution does it list "healthcare coverage" as the governments responsibility. But hey, that's why you're a lib and I'm a conservative.
That's funny since the Red state top the charts for Obamacare signup. More so than the blue states.

States Won by Trump Have Highest 'Obamacare' Enrollment - ABC News

What's also funny is that the Red States waste more Federal Spending than the Blue States. Which isn't a surprise since Red States don't collect enough revenue through income tax so they have to beg the Federal Govt for $$$.

But I thought they HATED handouts? Seems like Trickle down economics is working perfectly fine for them!
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