My observations after living in San Diego for one month! (Sacramento: HOA, appliances)

[whynot1986]

"Relax, it is ok for people to vent about cities and give information."

Most people aren't stupid, and they can tell when you're truly helping out from a sense of 'giving back' vs playing to an agenda. Your comments smell very strongly of being in the latter camp, no matter how much you deny this or say "it is ok"... maybe ok in your mind.

As others have suggested here, maybe it's time to give your adopted city more attention and forget about the painful past and bid the same joyful adieu to the San Diego forum that you did to the city itself. Bon Voyage!

[moved]

I totally agree with whynot1986. It's time to go!

[thepinksquid]

Originally Posted by whynot1986

"Relax, it is ok for people to vent about cities and give information."

Most people aren't stupid, and they can tell when you're truly helping out from a sense of 'giving back' vs playing to an agenda. Your comments smell very strongly of being in the latter camp, no matter how much you deny this or say "it is ok"... maybe ok in your mind.

As others have suggested here, maybe it's time to give your adopted city more attention and forget about the painful past and bid the same joyful adieu to the San Diego forum that you did to the city itself. Bon Voyage!

Originally Posted by moved

If you like living there so much, you should concentrate on doing the things that you like there, and not post about hating San Diego so much. There's enough negativity in the world now.

Lobster... these two posters after you have clarified what I unsuccessfully was trying to get across to you in my incessant rambling of a post yesterday.

Plus... if you *really* wish to know about how taxes will effect me personally... we will pay an extra $800 annually to have a small business (LLC) here rather than in FL. Realize FL has NO state tax at all. Granted I'm not overjoyed about that, but by no means is it terrible. Realize everyone's situation is different...

...and I have been to Michigan, and some parts are very nice. The Upper Peninsula is lovely. Never did I question that or have a closed mind to it... don't know where you got that idea from. (?)

[RD5050]

Lobster,

During those extremely cold Michigan winters, while you are freezing your butt off digging your car out of 3 feet of snow in 0 degrees temps, I'll be here in sunny San Diego riding my bike along a beautiful beach, with the temp around 70F.

[Sampaguita]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

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I don't know what it is, but is it true that most other states hate Californians, like the people from Florida and Texas? I think it's because they feel like we have an attitude problem or something, and were not as "Friendly". Because while in Dallas, I over heard some guy talking trash about me and my friend being from California, they could easily tell, by the way we talked and acted I guess. He was talkin crap how us Californians are rude, just like East Coast people and Chicagoan's Not sure if everyone's mindset in Texas is like that, but if it is, all I can say is "Wow".

I think one of the reasons for this perception is that there is a vocal minority of CA transplants who continue to compare California to Texas and in doing so, often disparage Texas (or whatever state they've moved to) and Texans unfairly.

I've moved back to Texas of my own free will (for the most part, LOL) and California living definitely has its perks! I do my own fair share of complaining to DH but IMO, if you hate living someplace so much, GET OUT and SHUT UP already. And if you happen to love where you're living, just realize that others won't & will express their opinions (no matter how dumb you think they & their attitudes are) vociferously.

In general though, I've noticed that sometimes people are just way too sensitive about their home cities & can't/don't want to see that some times there is merit to some of the complaints/laments (I'm forever lamenting that Trader Joe's hasn't made it way to Houston yet).

Glad you've enjoyed your first month in SD thus far, pinksquid but I have to agree with pps who've said you'll be wishing for a/c come August!

[whynot1986]

"In general though, I've noticed that sometimes people are just way too sensitive about their home cities"

So true and this has become apparent so many times. Another manifestation of this is when someone from say Florida calls their relative in say Chicago in January and says something like "guess what our weather is? Seventy degrees!" like some sort of personal accomplishment that they can take credit for. (ok, except for global warming).

For crying out loud, these cities aren't your children, and even for your children you can't take all the credit, you know? If you love where you live, quietly and humbly give thanks to whoever/whatever you believe in, and stop cramming it down other people's throats. If you don't like the place, ask that same entity with equal humility for help in getting out.

Either way, nothing is permanent... as Don Henley sings: "In a New York minute, everything can change". We as a people (Americans I mean) have trod way too heavily for too long and some of the payback for this is now becoming apparent. Sorry for going OT...

[thepinksquid]

Originally Posted by whynot1986

"In general though, I've noticed that sometimes people are just way too sensitive about their home cities"

So true and this has become apparent so many times. Another manifestation of this is when someone from say Florida calls their relative in say Chicago in January and says something like "guess what our weather is? Seventy degrees!" like some sort of personal accomplishment that they can take credit for. (ok, except for global warming).

For crying out loud, these cities aren't your children, and even for your children you can't take all the credit, you know? If you love where you live, quietly and humbly give thanks to whoever/whatever you believe in, and stop cramming it down other people's throats. If you don't like the place, ask that same entity with equal humility for help in getting out.

Either way, nothing is permanent... as Don Henley sings: "In a New York minute, everything can change". We as a people (Americans I mean) have trod way too heavily for too long and some of the payback for this is now becoming apparent. Sorry for going OT...

Your first statement sounds like my mother that lives in Florida bragging to her mother is Massachusetts when it's January. I've always thought that was kind of mean of her... I mean, for whatever reason her mother hasn't moved to FL yet... apparently she likes MA and wants to say... leave it alone!

[cebu077]

Originally Posted by lobster5757

Well,
Glad you read my posts. Thanks for reading! By the way 2 years of trying to find a different job in San Diego, I move here to MI and find a job... in a month. With better pay than San Diego I might ad! My rent (is HALF), taxes and cost of living are dramatically less here in MI. Maybe read some of the other MI posts, hey you never know, you might like it here too! Open your mind. So what if I want to vent about San Diego and warn others, you seem to be venting on this site too. If I have a bad experience in a restaurant or city, I warn others, oh wait, from your posts, you just come here to bash people no places. Relax, it is ok for people to vent about cities and give information. I thought that is what this site is for. You seem pretty angry that any else can give an opinion. I hope you find some peace. Good luck.

As someone who lives in the Midwest (Ohio), I've got to wonder if you've spent a winter season in MI yet. If not, brace yourself, because it's seemingly endless months (usually from November clear through March, but it can go into April) of gray skies, frigid temperatures, and snow. Then, when spring finally rolls around, you have to deal with months of rain. And in the summer, the humidity rivals that of the southern states.

In addition, you have very few entertainment options, an almost complete lack of diversity in regard to race and interests, and an overall conservative attitude centered solely around religious zeal.

As for the job market in MI? You're very lucky, because for years people have been LEAVING the state due to a crumbling economic infastructure and job market -- this started happening in 2004, a few years before the entire country started to feel the strain.

Hey, MI and the Midwest is wonderful to some people -- but not to me! My point is, just because YOU hate San Diego, that doesn't mean everyone else will. Some people love OH, a sentiment I can't even fathom!

Believe me, the cost of living in MI is low for a reason. At least in CA, and especially in cities like San Diego, you are paying a large amount of money for something worthwhile. You truly do get what you pay for!

[jkoz]

Originally Posted by cebu077

As someone who lives in the Midwest (Ohio), I've got to wonder if you've spent a winter season in MI yet. If not, brace yourself, because it's seemingly endless months (usually from November clear through March, but it can go into April) of gray skies, frigid temperatures, and snow. Then, when spring finally rolls around, you have to deal with months of rain. And in the summer, the humidity rivals that of the southern states.

In addition, you have very few entertainment options, an almost complete lack of diversity in regard to race and interests, and an overall conservative attitude centered solely around religious zeal.

As for the job market in MI? You're very lucky, because for years people have been LEAVING the state due to a crumbling economic infastructure and job market -- this started happening in 2004, a few years before the entire country started to feel the strain.

Hey, MI and the Midwest is wonderful to some people -- but not to me! My point is, just because YOU hate San Diego, that doesn't mean everyone else will. Some people love OH, a sentiment I can't even fathom!

Believe me, the cost of living in MI is low for a reason. At least in CA, and especially in cities like San Diego, you are paying a large amount of money for something worthwhile. You truly do get what you pay for!

As someone originally from Detroit, I'm glad I came to S.D.! However, a sister still lives in the metro Detroit area and wouldn't leave for anything, not even in the face of possible job loss. She's visited S.D. several times and likes it but says she wouldn't live here for anything and eagerly hops back on the plane bound for MI, which is hard for me to fathom. Bottom line, there's nothing wrong with wherever you choose to live, as long as you're happy there. Since "Lobster" grew up in San Diego, he likely enjoys the contrast of MI, much the way I liked the contrast of S.D. Growing up, I did know a few native Californians who had settled in Michigan--rare, but it happens.

If Lobster decides after a MI winter or two that it's not for him, California will still be here!

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by lobster5757

I lived in San Diego for 10 years, yes it is true. The traffic is awful and I grew up in LA, and that is saying something. Perhaps you do not have to commute to jobs up the 805 or 15 from 7AM- AM? Or commute home between 3-7PM? It took me about 45 min to make my way from La Jolla to Kensington, which is about 10 miles.

Glad I moved out. Beware of the drinking water, there are problems and it will give you serious gastro intestinal problems if you are not careful and buy drinking water from the store. Also, be very careful which restaurants you eat, as they cook with the same drinking water..........Gross, huh? Not worth it to me!

quote=randplaty;9364182]I've lived in San Diego all my life and I've never had a bad commute. All of the congestion is during rush hour and very localized so you know exactly where it is and exactly how to avoid it. Traffic in SD is not bad at all IMHO.

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I wish more would move to Detroit. Hey, do you need any Illegals in Detroit? RRRR I mean "cheap undocumented labor"