SD overtaken in population (Los Angeles, San Diego: real estate, crime, home)

[Salcan]

Originally Posted by kettlepot

"City Feel" isn't really determined by the population within the boundaries of a city but by the metropolitan area's population. City population can be greatly effected by the ease with which cities can annex neighboring land or communities. Metro population is less open to political manipulation.

On that score San Diego has been beaten by a lot more cities than those on the list. Our Metro population is only 17th nationally. As for our metro population, our national ranking is on a steady downward slope as well. Since MSAs are determined using county lines, San Diego will only have the population of San Diego county in its MSA. It will never be allowed to incorporate Temecula and Murrietta into the MSA because Los Angeles already has Riverside county.

Oh well, that doesn't change the fact that San Diego is a nice place to live. It has a healthy revitalizing urban core, natural beauty, and plenty of suburban sprawl for those who like that kind of thing.

Sorry to burst your bubble but murrieta and temecula both belong to the Riverside-San Bernardino Metropolitan Area...aka the Inland Empire, actually all of Riverside and San Bernardino Counties are a part of the San Bernardino-Riverside Metropolitan Area including Palm Springs, Big Bear, Barstow, Neddles, Indio, ect. The San Bernardino-Riverside Metropolitan Area is actually ahead of the San Diego, Las Vegas, Seattle, Kansas City, ect. Metropolitan Areas. Poor San Diego....

[Snort]

The numbers are small only by 600 people

We get 'em back when they're all vacationing out here.

[revelated]

People saying there's less people on the freeway? Maybe the 5...not the 15. It's still always crowded around Miramar, always crowded off the 78, always jampacked at that bridge right above Pomerado Road, always jampacked around Mission Valley.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

California is slowly but surely going the way of certain NE'stern states and certain ones in the Great Lakes. I reckon we'll see growth level off next decade. The following one, we may actually start to experience an absolute decline in overall population.

[TVC15]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

Hey forum, have you guys read up on the UT today about SD getting beat in population by Dallas? The numbers are small only by 600 people, so Dallas is ranked 8th largest city in the country, while SD sits at 9th place.

Here's the full story

San Diego dips in rankings


I truly believe that Dallas is attracting loads of people from elsewhere that are looking for cheaper place to live. Dallas is a fine city that has life, it actually feels more like a real city than San Diego does. I can understand why people are flocking to Dallas from across the country. SD has become just way too expensive for the average family, you have to have loads of money to survive in this town or to live happily. We also don't have a bunch of corporate companies lined up here like they have in Dallas. Many jobs in SD are low paying service work. You could probably work a at McDonalds in Texas, and still makes ends meet.

Not only that but Texas does not have a personal state income tax and that is something most Texas residents don't want to give up by moving to states that impose it. It is interesting that California taxes and taxes and taxes and is still not doing well. Texas is doing better then most states and it does not tax and tax and tax its citizens to extinction! You could work at McDonalds and make ends but not living a quality life like that!

[skeke]

I remember when my ex-husband's company moved their corporate headquarters from New York City to Dallas because property was so cheap. They had another method to their madness too. A lot of their high level execs did not want to move from New York to Dallas so they quit. The company expected that and replaced them with new, lower paid execs. That is when my ex left San Diego and moved to Texas to work at corporate headquarters in one of those vacant corporate exec positions. That's also when we got our divorce. The kids and I stayed in San Diego. He went on to Dallas on his own.

[cheif-narragansett]

yeah,jst as ppl go **** off diego city,the property will be a bit cheaper and I gotta enaf cash to buy 80 towers the size of SEARS but I'd rather invest in my hometown..so metro might be lookin for cheap residence where I look forwards to quality living.In DUBAI they call ARBAAB LIFE

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by sdurbanite

Exactly! A city's population doesn't stop at it's boundaries. The entire metro population is what really matters.

Atlanta, for example, is the 33rd largest city in the country, but 8th largest metro area. As kettlepot said, SD ranks 17th. FYI, Dallas is the 4th largest metro in the country.

I could care less that we dropped a notch. I'm more concerned about the quality of people who live here than quantity. Of the 10 largest cities, SD has the highest percentage of people with college degrees at 40%. Dallas, on the other hand, is a paltry 27%. And let's not forget that SD is routinely one of the safest big cities in the country.

And your point is? What does the number of college grads have to do with the population ranking?

Nita

[sav858]

Originally Posted by nmnita

And your point is? What does the number of college grads have to do with the population ranking?

Nita

Quality over quantity is the point I believe sdurbanite was trying to make. SD may have a smaller population but it also has a more educated one as well.

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by Salcan

Sorry to burst your bubble but murrieta and temecula both belong to the Riverside-San Bernardino Metropolitan Area...aka the Inland Empire, actually all of Riverside and San Bernardino Counties are a part of the San Bernardino-Riverside Metropolitan Area including Palm Springs, Big Bear, Barstow, Neddles, Indio, ect. The San Bernardino-Riverside Metropolitan Area is actually ahead of the San Diego, Las Vegas, Seattle, Kansas City, ect. Metropolitan Areas. Poor San Diego....

I prefer to look at a relatively new categorization from the Census Bureau called "urbanized areas". They're much more accurate measurements then the old metropolitan area boundaries which are based on county lines.

We'll have new numbers next year, but for now, the 2000 numbers will have to suffice. Don't feel too bad for San Diego. It was the 15th largest urbanized area in the country in 2000 - larger than Riverside-San Bernardino alone, and certainly larger than the Temecula-Murrieta area.

List of United States urban areas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Other urbanized areas in the vicinity:

2. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana
25. Riverside-San Bernardino
68. Mission Viejo
125. Indio-Cathedral City-Palm Springs
131. Temecula-Murrieta
227. Hemet
428. El Centro