Should there be a new San Diego Airport along the US-Mexico border, accessible from both countries? (rail, property)

[sdurbanite]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

There have already been 20 years of ballot measures, studies, and attempts to expand or otherwise move the airport. All have failed. There is serious opposition to expanding or moving SAN. San Diego doesn't want to be a big city with a big city airport, they like their convenient little downtown airport.

I think most San Diegans would love a new, bigger airport but the core of the problem is that there is no room to build one. The military certainly wasn't going to give Miramar away and of course the NIMBY's surrounding Miramar did everything they could to vote down the most recent ballot and won. As others have said, we're stuck with Lindbergh for years to come.

Does anyone remember the far-fetched proposal to build the airport offshore?

Euphlotea

[zango]

The airport issue has been kicked around for years. SAN is a joke and we all have to connect to LA. or Phoenix to go anywhere. But the old timers have been able to kill any discussion of a new airport. Right now, the city(the country) is broke. So it will probably be 10 yrs. before anyone even mentions the "new" airport again. I have always felt that Miramar was the best option. But the neighborhoods around Miramar are full of NIMBYs. They prefer to have F-14s buzzing over their homes. Rather than commercial flights. Which makes no sense to me.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by sdurbanite

I think most San Diegans would love a new, bigger airport but the core of the problem is that there is no room to build one. The military certainly wasn't going to give Miramar away and of course the NIMBY's surrounding Miramar did everything they could to vote down the most recent ballot and won. As others have said, we're stuck with Lindbergh for years to come.

Does anyone remember the far-fetched proposal to build the airport offshore?

Euphlotea

Offshore??? No please tell me that one

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Vicman

France and Switzerland had ways of keeping people out of each other's sides before the Swiss joined the Schengen passport free zone. I'm not sure exactly what measures were there at EuroAirport and Geneva. Each airport was entirely physically located in one country (EuroAirport in France, and Geneva Airport in Switzerland), but as I explained in the earlier post, each airport was accessible from both countries.



As for the other posts, I wasn't meaning exactly this minute - I was meaning sometime in the near or far future.

Not in our life time, who knows 100 years from now. Mexico (TJ) and USA are a little different that France and Switzerland. I am sure if you visited San Diego and then went to TJ you would know what we mean when we say nada.
We already have trouble with illegals, this would just be one more, not to mention the economy. TJ has always been almost 3rd world poverty.

Nita

[dishdog]

As has been noted by other posters the current site has been sufficient for decades. I have flown into and out of SAN more times than I care to count for both domestic and international flights (yes with connections at LAX or JFK) and have experienced hardly any delays. Yes it is a convenient "small" city airport that is true.
San Diego does not need a new airport. In my opion developers have been trying to convince the people and city gov't that we need to move the site somewhere else. For those who don't know SAN sits on some prime bayfront property.

[Vicman]

Originally Posted by nmnita

We already have trouble with illegals, this would just be one more, not to mention the economy. TJ has always been almost 3rd world poverty.

If an airport has strong security, I'm not sure that the border-jumping illegals would want to cross there. The airport would be like any other official US/Mexico border crosspoint. Also security (such as fencing to block people from accessing the runways) is a given at airports.

[Sassberto]

Originally Posted by Vicman

The airport would be like any other official US/Mexico border crosspoint.

You mean like this one?

2 charged with smuggling in Calif. bo... - Google News

What is your level of familiarity with San Diego? I am getting the impression it is almost zero.

[iskray917]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

You mean like this one?

2 charged with smuggling in Calif. bo... - Google News

What is your level of familiarity with San Diego? I am getting the impression it is almost zero.

I get the same impression. Without trying to sound like to much of an jerk, this idea is absolutely asinine.

[Vicman]

Anyone can try to shoot at people manning a border crossing, just like this Egyptian man shot people dead at the El Al ticket counter at LAX: Three dead in shooting at Israel's El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles International | Article from AP Worldstream | HighBeam Research

The risk that you describe at the San Diego border crossing exists at any airport ticket counter. Airport counter attacks have happened in Europe too http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2545949.stm

Also notice that the attempt at the San Diego crossing failed and that the perpetrators were arrested. If the attempt had succeeded, then it would have made a stronger argument. But trying to pull off a shooting at the start of a border crossing is just like attacking an airport ticket counter - there's not much one can do to necessarily prevent it.

No matter where an airport is located, there's always a risk of an incident like the LAX airport counter attack. The same goes for a boder crossing. Evidence of a strong security system is one that stops events like what you described, and has the perpetrators arrested. Also, how often are the border crossings attacked like this? Would this be considered a regular occurrence?

Originally Posted by Sassberto

You mean like this one?

2 charged with smuggling in Calif. bo... - Google News

What is your level of familiarity with San Diego? I am getting the impression it is almost zero.

Based on the news report, I get the impression that the security system at the crossing itself worked. Also, the article doesn't say that these direct attack stunts are regular occurrences. I searched "United States Mexico border crossing attack" on Google News and can't find any other instances of a direct attack at a particular US-Mexico border crosspoint.

Also the security risk of being attacked at a border crossing also exists at the airport ticket counter.

Originally Posted by iskray917

I get the same impression. Without trying to sound like to much of an jerk, this idea is absolutely asinine.

[Sassberto]

Originally Posted by Vicman

No matter where an airport is located, there's always a risk of an incident like the LAX airport counter attack.

That's not my point - you started a thread specifically about San Diego / Tijuana - and you appear to have little-to-no understanding of the region. Without that understanding, given both historical and current conditions... you are missing out on why what you propose is not realistic, even if technically possible.