San Diego Ranks #1/Most Overpriced City (Temecula: foreclosures, home sales, neighborhood)

[trailtramp]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

Many are Persians / Iranians, not Arabs.

okay but I was close...

As nice and easy as SoCal had always been, the demographics were just getting way too diversly wild and the population unbearably large. Got lucky and sold out last fall and headed to the southwest where we can actually see landscape with no buildings.

For those of you staying...enjoy!

[jzt83]

The divide between the rich and poor is widening:

"Those Census figures put California in the top five states for the percentage of families making more than $200,000 a year -- 3.7 percent, compared to the national average of 2.7 percent. The percentage of families earning less than $20,000 was 15.8 percent, compared to the national average of 15.7 percent.

The most disturbing figure, however, is the percentage of California residents in the middle income bracket Noun 1. income bracket - a category of taxpayers based on the amount of their income
income tax bracket, tax bracket

bracket - a category falling within certain defined limits income bracket n → of $35,000 to $75,000 a year. At 34.7 percent, California ranks second lowest among the states for the percentage of population in the middle class. "

California's Vanishing Middle Class. - Free Online Library

[sdurbanite]

Originally Posted by trailtramp

As nice and easy as SoCal had always been, the demographics were just getting way too diversly wild and the population unbearably large. Got lucky and sold out last fall and headed to the southwest where we can actually see landscape with no buildings.

Diversely wild?!? To each his own I guess, because the place you moved to doesn't sound the least bit appealing to me.

[sdlife619]

Wow Sass, I'm very impressed, you speak the truth my man

San Diego is a place of many different people from all over the country, because of our weather, our location, and the many miles of beaches and deserts that makes SD what it is, a huge paradise and people are attracted to it.

Now I find it really alarming that a lot of San Diegan's are still very segregated by income, race, and class acceptance.

We live in a County were Sass is right, many Whites don't want to live in a all Mexican neighborhood, or a minority majority type of one. They are tired of the influx of Mexican immigrants, and since the border is next to us, they resent the fact that they feel like there are all white neighborhoods are being invaded, plus the illegal immigration issue doesn't help either. I firmly believe this, because a lot of conservatives don't like change or accept racial/culture change. Whites in say Hillcrest, NP, more in the city of SD, accept everybody, because they don't mind change and some actually like it because of there liberal beliefs. El Cajon is full of white trash, and looks as if the Whites all came from Tennessee or Arkansas, and are not native Californians. SD does have many people here from the Mid West, you can tell just by looking at certain people that they are not from Cali. Since Rednecks like being around each other, they all are located in El Cajon, Santee, Lakeside, Poway and other places, but mainly in East County because of it's location, mountains, desert, rural country.

I'm sounding rough, but hey it's reality. Asians are by far the most segregated in SD. I only see Asians in Mira Mesa or Clairemont, City Heights places near the military bases and that's it. Filipinos more in National City, Spring Valley, but they have yet moved around SD county. They rarely exist in East County, or North County. Orange County is not like this at all, Asians are all over OC, just like Hispanics, they are not specifically located in one or 2 large area's like here in San Diego.

I wish SD was more integrated of all races, because we still have some intolerance, and resistance. I don't think cities like La Mesa or places like San Carlos should worry about a huge demographic change, the places are still very much white. Yeah maybe some Hispanics or Asians have moved in, but it's still the same.

There's no in between in San Diego, you either are making it, or barely making it. For single people, it's extremely tough to survive in SD, no wonder I see a lot of couples, or family members sticking together for a longer amount of time.

[MantaRay]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

There's no in between in San Diego, you either are making it, or barely making it. For single people, it's extremely tough to survive in SD, no wonder I see a lot of couples, or family members sticking together for a longer amount of time.

That's the exact reason I think maintaining higher housing prices in SD going forward will be problematic. How is a city with basically no middle class (ok, to be fair, a small and shrinking one) ever going to support middle and upper middle class housing/neighborhoods?

I wonder what people afraid of living in a majority Latino area will do when the Latino population in the US climbs to near 50% by 2030 or thereabouts, as projections are indicating will probably happen. As the Latino population grows, more and more will be found in the upper income brackets and will be moving into those neighborhoods where people are now trying to remain segregated. I would have thought California, with as liberal a reputation as it has, would have been one of the most tolerant states for Latinos. I'm really shocked to hear the real inside info on SD. I absolutely did not expect that.

[JakeInSoCal]

I love it here & it makes sense its so expensive but why do this if no one can afford it. How far water could go in price is interesting because its scarce out here

[jkoz]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

Remember there was no eastside Chula Vista or 4S Ranch in 2000 either.

Your posts are always spot-on, but huh? Mrs. Fenton-Hunte "sold the ranch" to the Eastlake Company in 1978. Phase I of Eastlake was completed in 1986. I moved there in '93--it was very much "there" then!

Originally Posted by Sassberto

Not to speak badly of Chula Vista but it's reputation on this forum is well beyond it's reputation among most people who live here. Not everyone wants to live in an area where 50% or more of the population are Mexican-American. And most people who don't want it... won't tell you either

That's not speaking badly of Chula Vista, but it would seem to speak poorly of Mexican-Americans.

I know Chula Vista will forever have "the stigma", but even as a very white Irish girl, I'll take those walking and biking trails, parks everywhere you turn, manicured neighborhoods with proximity retail, and mountain vistas, and yes, the Mexican-Americans, any day. To each his/her own.

[Sassberto]

Originally Posted by jkoz

Your posts are always spot-on, but huh? Mrs. Fenton-Hunte "sold the ranch" to the Eastlake Company in 1978. Phase I of Eastlake was completed in 1986. I moved there in '93--it was very much "there" then!

That's not speaking badly of Chula Vista, but it would seem to speak poorly of Mexican-Americans.

yes there was eastlake but there was not the massive development that occured since. And I am not speaking poorly of Mexican-Americans (I am married to one) I am speaking poorly of the people who hold that perception (which are many).

the divide in in places like Vista. People I work with who won't live north of 78 because it's the "Hispanic area"...

[jkoz]

Originally Posted by sdlife619

Wow El Cajon is full of white trash, and looks as if the Whites all came from Tennessee or Arkansas, and are not native Californians. SD does have many people here from the Mid West, you can tell just by looking at certain people that they are not from Cali. Since Rednecks like being around each other, they all are located in El Cajon, Santee, Lakeside, Poway and other places, but mainly in East County because of it's location, mountains, desert, rural country.

Interesting generalizations but smacks of another non-natives-should-go-"home" post; how can one tell by looking at someone that they are not from Calif.? I've seen Minnesota transplants who look like they grew up at the beach and born-bred S.D. natives who look like they grew up in Minnesota. The only way I know for sure someone is not from here is if they are walking around with a camera around their neck.

[jkoz]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

yes there was eastlake but there was not the massive development that occured since. And I am not speaking poorly of Mexican-Americans (I am married to one) I am speaking poorly of the people who hold that perception (which are many).

the divide in in places like Vista. People I work with who won't live north of 78 because it's the "Hispanic area"...

True - Much of the retail boom actually occurred here post 2004.

I do find it puzzling and amusing, though, that people will move to a Mexican border town (which ALL of San Diego is) and then complain vehemently about the number of "Hispanics" around