Worst city in the Bay Area to live in? (San Jose: crimes, camping)
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I completely disagree with this. San Francisco is a horrible city to live in if you are a poor minority. The ugly impoverished side of San Francisco is hidden away from middle class and upper class mostly White and Asian folks who live in nice and clean neighborhoods in SF. Some of the ghettos in SF are the most run down dangerous impoverished places on the entire West Coast and the country. I know because I grew up in one of SF's most dilapidated and neglected hoods. The projects in Lakeview, Sunnydale and Hunter's Point are much worse all around than many of the projects across the Bay in more notorious cities like Oakland and Richmond. I would actually prefer to live in some of Oakland's city owned public housing because their projects are much better maintained than the dilapidated pissy boarded up projects of San Francisco's hidden ghettos.
Look at the projects in my old neighborhood in Lakeview in SF. They are in horrible condition. Boarded up windows and trash all over the balconies. Can you believe that people still live in this shoddy building? In a few years, this project building looks like it will collapse in on itself. At least in Oakland most of the boarded up buildings are abandoned and people aren't forced to actually live in them like they do here in my old neighborhood. Sadly, this is what passes by as acceptable public low income housing to the City of San Francisco. For shame.
Now take a look at the Cypress Village Housing projects in West Oakland. Sans the bars on the windows, the housing development is very clean and much newer looking. Some of the project buildings here could be mistaken for pricy apartment complex buildings by people who didn't know any better.
Since the neglected impoverished side of San Francisco is hidden away and not advertised, public housing in San Francisco is among the worst in the nation. Before the Hunter's View Projects in Hunter's Point were torn down, they were rated among the worst in the country just three short years ago.
The difference between Oakland and San Francisco is that SF's crime and abject poverty are swept under the rug to defend the City's pristine national reputation whereas crime in Oakland is often exaggerated by the biased local and national media. But have no fear racists and classists, San Francisco is gentrifying faster than ever and all the poor people living in hidden away run down SF projects are being pushed into homelessness or into nicer looking and smelling projects across the water.
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San Francisco is not just a dangerous city for poor Black folks in the projects either. SF can be a very dangerous city for all minorities regardless of income or occupation. For example, Black gang members targeting Asian immigrants for crimes like robbery has always been common in the City, it just has been covered up by the SFPD. Not to mention Asian immigrants usually do not come forward to the police to report such crimes. This makes Asian immigrants in the City a perfect target for crimes like robberies. I know because I am part Chinese on my mother's side and my grandparents had been robbed many times by gang bangers in the over four decades they've lived in San Francisco.
It is also very dangerous being Latino or even looking like a Latino in SF. If you are young, male and Latino or look like you are Hispanic and wearing the wrong color in the wrong place, it can spell death.
It is sad but the rich mostly White non-native residents of San Francisco and the tourists who don't experience these problems in the City could care less about these serious issues with crime and safety in the City concerning minorities. However, it is obvious that these ugly facts in these articles are seen as statistically irrelevant to well-off White folks in SF because these scary tidbits of information aren't extremely publicized.
I'm not saying SF is a bad place to live. SF is one of the greatest cities in the world. I'm just sick of the dumb uninformed attitude that many non-residents and non-natives have that SF is some magical place across the Bay Bridge that is completely free or crime, violence and racism.
Last edited by goldenchild08; 11-20-2010 at 12:40 PM..
@goldenchild08: interesting articles. I missed those the first time around. SF has done a great job of ignoring crime in its borders and focusing on crime in the east bay. It is completely ridiculous.
I don't feel like I need to even dignify @goonzy with a response to his ridiculousness. Goon, that's more like it.
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San Francisco has over 100 toxic hazardous sites through out the entire city, not just in Hunters Point.
If you take away Oakland, the Bay Area won't be able to survive.
Very true, I was just using that one as an example. Oakland certainly is important to the Bay Area, having one of the largest shipping ports on the west coast as well as a major train yard. the majority of the goods used throughout the Bay area come in through Oakland.
One of the most glaring facts about San Francisco's crime rate is that there are a ridiculously high amount of crimes per square mile in the City. In fact, there are 40,910 documented crimes per square mile in SF. The national median for crimes per square mile is 49.6.
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I am aware that San Francisco is the second most densely populated city in the nation. However, if you live in SF or have lived there before you know that the City is an extremely spotty place with wild high crime ghetto areas a few feet away from upscale areas. In a city with over 40,000 crimes per square mile I'm going to assume your chances of becoming a victim of some sort of crime is rather high. I know because back when I was a kid living in Ingleside Heights in Lakeview my father's car and our house was broken into on several occasions and many of my mother's co-workers had been robbed at gun point so many times in downtown SF it was a routine. That is not including all of the homicide and drug trade that defined my neighborhood back in the 80's and 90's. Also, look at the overall safety rating for San Francisco on the neighborhood scout link. San Francisco rates at 11 which means the City is safer than only 11% of of ALL American cities. Compare that to Oakland which earned a 7 in the crime index rating.
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The difference between crime and safety ratings in Oakland and San Francisco aren't that different considering the boroughs of NYC earn MUCH safer ratings. Queens has an overall crime/safety index of 53 meaning the borough is safer than 53% of all U.S. cities and towns including small suburbs and rural backroad towns. Similarly, the stereotypical tough guy town of Brooklyn, NY earned a 33 on the general crime index.
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What are you talking about? Oakland has the HIGHEST violent crime rate in the state (murder, assault, rape). If there is any city in California where it's more likely to happen, it's Oakland!
It is obvious that you don't know anything about Northern California. Cities like Richmond and even Sacramento can be much more dangerous than Oakland, statistically speaking. According to trusty Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowed, Richmond earned a 5 on the safety index and Sacramento earned a fat ugly 3 on the safety index.
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Over-publicized violent crime in Oakland is usually strictly over drugs and money and between people who know each other. Violent crime in Oakland is NOT random, more often than not. Sacramento has Bloods and Crips like LA and they trip over trivial things like wearing the wrong colors in the wrong hoods.
Even in San Francisco, innocent people have a much higher chance of being victims of violent crime. I already posted the articles about how innocent Asian and Hispanic immigrants are specifically targeted by gangs for robberies and extortion in San Francisco. The Tenderloin is a known area where you can become a victim if you look like one. Historically speaking, the tucked away Black ghetto neighborhoods in the outskirts of SF are extremely territorial. If you show your face on the block in the roughest areas in Sunnydale, Hunter's Point or Lakeview any nobody knows who the hell you are, there is a high probability you will get killed, especially if you are a young Black male. Read this:
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