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Old 08-15-2011, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Is this particular situation really censorship tho? Im not so sure...I mean, yes we have the right to freedom of speech but is being able to use the phone also a guaranteed right as well?

I dunno.
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:31 AM
 
Location: South Korea
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Using your cell phones is a privilege, not a right, BART had no obligation to put in the hardware in the stations and tunnels so people could make calls and I wish they hadn't, you just get a lot of people yakking on their phones all the time, and makes it easy for these protesters to cause mischief. And these protesters and their trendy buddies on Anonymous are just going to **** people off by messing up their BART commute, a lot of people would take them seriously and listen to what they have to say if they were doing a protest that didn't try to shut down the entire system.
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Old 08-15-2011, 01:08 AM
 
Location: US
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These hackers are such hypocrites. BART denied cell-phone service to prevent people coming back from a long day at work the anguish of having to wait hours and fight protestors. To get back at BART in the name of freedom, let's hack into BART and post the usernames and passwords to BART riders. I hope they rot in jail with Big Bubba.
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:11 AM
 
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So posting the personal information of private citizens is suppose to further their cause how? Sounds like they are defeating and hypocritical to the purpose of their agenda.

Maybe some wannabe Vendetta probie will set us straight on this issue.

Seems to me cell phone service in this instance would be a privilege not a right.
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:18 AM
 
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Using your cell phones is a privilege, not a right, BART had no obligation to put in the hardware in the stations and tunnels so people could make calls and I wish they hadn't, you just get a lot of people yakking on their phones all the time, and makes it easy for these protesters to cause mischief. And these protesters and their trendy buddies on Anonymous are just going to **** people off by messing up their BART commute, a lot of people would take them seriously and listen to what they have to say if they were doing a protest that didn't try to shut down the entire system.
Agreed. At the investing seminars I've attended in the Bay Area the speakers frequently jam the cell phones during the seminar to prevent people from wandering off and not paying attention.

Phone, TV, etc. is not a right.
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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Agreed. At the investing seminars I've attended in the Bay Area the speakers frequently jam the cell phones during the seminar to prevent people from wandering off and not paying attention.

Phone, TV, etc. is not a right.
I wish they could block cell phone use in movie theaters. Place a sign in the lobby telling people that if they can't go 2 hours without using a phone, don't come in!

As for BART, in the first 35 years of its existence, BART didn't have any phone/wi-fi coverage and people seemed to get by.
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: South Korea
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As for BART, in the first 35 years of its existence, BART didn't have any phone/wi-fi coverage and people seemed to get by.
But I've got an important call to make! Can you hear me? Hello? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yeah no yeah. Can you hear me? Hello? I'm going into the tunnel. I'm...Yeah. I'm going into the...I'm going into the tunnel. Tunnel. Yeah I'm going into the tunnel. Hello? Can you hear me? What? I'm going into a...
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:40 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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But, but but, how are people supposed to check in on Foursquare without cellular access?

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Old 08-15-2011, 11:54 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I don't know about this one. On the one hand I can see what everyone else is saying about people overreacting. On the other hand I cannot help but think that this is BART's way of protecting it's officers from any further incriminating cell phone videos like the infamous one that showed the cops shooting the guy once he was on the ground.

I don't know, that's just what I got out of this.
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Old 08-15-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I don't know about this one. On the one hand I can see what everyone else is saying about people overreacting. On the other hand I cannot help but think that this is BART's way of protecting it's officers from any further incriminating cell phone videos like the infamous one that showed the cops shooting the guy once he was on the ground.

I don't know, that's just what I got out of this.
The cameras on phones are still going to work. Someone might have to wait to upload the video, but they probably do anyway, because transfer speeds seemed pretty poor. Other than banning electronic devices -- which would make BART completely useless -- there's no way to prevent people taking pictures or movies.

Unless the city passes a law like Chicago, where photographing police is illegal . But I don't see that happening in SF or CA.
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