Another Occupied City: Oakland (Merced: attorneys, high school, safety)

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by mayorhaggar

10,000 marched peacefully yesterday. 70 rioted late at night. 40 were arrested.

The numbers I saw estimated 7,000 marched and 101 arrested.

Channel 4 also listed where those arrested live... as far away as New York with more than a dozen other States included and few Oakland residents...

[rimmerama]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

Hey, that got a good laugh outta me ... actually a great retort! Heh ...
But, the truth of your list is that all those crimes are about psycho-sociopathy -- not age ... although, psychopaths and sociopaths do become more and more efficient at their evils with experience over time. And the same is true inversely with how the wisdom gained through age is applied to good works, as well.

So, good, clean, snappy comeback there, kid ... despite being only correlative and not causative. Keep pitching -- and keep an eye on your boundaries of limitations.

Great, now I'll feel guilty if I insult you...

[slo1318]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

The footage is all over the news on every Bay Area station.

I have no idea what the guy was doing there... As someone that has been in a mob scene... my first instinct is to get the H*LL out...

The video also showed that he did not flee the scene... the driver remained until the officers allowed him to leave.

I agree. The key in the story I saw was that the guy was interviewed by police along with some witnesses, and then allowed to leave and was not cited.....

[josh u]

That looks like a lowly C-class Mercedes, definitely not something a 1%er would buy. It's the type of car a person making $45k per year would buy to impress the neighbors. Just shows how ignorant these protestors are -- they harrass someone who's in the 99%.

In any case, anyone who's arrogant or dumb enough stand in front of a moving vehicle deserves the outcome. If you go around looking for trouble, you'll find it. If it were my car, I'd sue the prick for denting my hood with his face.

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by rimmerama

They serve over 120,000 people, I'm sure their correctional department is larger, since it serves 1,500,000 people. Once you factor in DoJ grants, most departments have a crapload of stuff.

Other than the jails and and these demonstrations, how often have they used tear gas cannisters? The stuff was probably nearing its expiration date.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by josh u

That looks like a lowly C-class Mercedes, definitely not something a 1%er would buy. It's the type of car a person making $45k per year would buy to impress the neighbors.

Still a nice car tho.

It looks like a 2005-2007 MBZ C230 Sport although some 07 models have another option for rims, a more star shaped design on the rim with thinner spokes.

Nice, but ur correct, even a 2011 C300 is not really out of reach of a middle class person with good credit.

In any case, anyone who's arrogant or dumb enough stand in front of a moving vehicle deserves the outcome. If you go around looking for trouble, you'll find it. If it were my car, I'd sue the prick for denting my hood with his face.

Ya know, the driver kinda looked Slavic? Russian?.....and having been to Moscow I know that drivers there are bit less patient than those here.

Still on a more serious note, he should have just stopped and let the protestors pass. Instead he kept inching closer and closer to the protestor trying to get him to move and that was really stupid.

Ive already stated that the protestor was in the wrong for putting his hands on someone else's property-banging on the hood no less-that is never excusable.

But the driver should have kept a cool head.

On the other hand, I can't help but to wonder if the driver were Black, would those BART cops have let him go? I dunno.

But that's a whole other can of worms.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by San Jose Mercury News

Prominent Silicon Valley businessman to divest Bank of America funds

By Tracy Seipel
Updated: 11/03/2011 10:12:24 PM PDT

prominent member of Silicon Valley's exclusive "1 percent" club is pulling his money out of Bank of America and cutting all ties with the bank -- and he hopes others will follow his lead.

Mike Fox Sr., a beer magnate and well-known philanthropist, is set to announce Friday that he is divesting his long-held personal Bank of America account, which contains several hundred thousand dollars, in an effort to promote social and economic justice.

Fox said Thursday that he has also asked his executive team to move a $4 million-plus line of credit held by M.E. Fox & Co. from Bank of America to another institution. Fox's firm is a 46-year-old wholesale distributor of beer, water, New Age beverages and Red Bull energy drink.

Prominent Silicon Valley businessman to divest Bank of America funds - San Jose Mercury News

I think its a good time to start considering this.

[alexxiz]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Ya know, the driver kinda looked Slavic? Russian?.....and having been to Moscow I know that drivers there are bit less patient than those here.

LOOOOL...this looks like Oakland:
http://youtu.be/mM6uBTaT5iI'

russian police fight with drivers
http://youtu.be/FCBDdUnDv-k

Americans should stop whining and learn to take it like Russians:
http://youtu.be/9oDgQo_ax6Y

In Soviet Russia... pedestrian hits car. (woman pedestrian beats driver)
http://youtu.be/4-HXXw659XY


Those were the riots of 1993 in Moscow:
http://youtu.be/PbGJkoc3JLI

The storm of Television tower in Moscow (English)--truck driven into the 1st floor before the attack.. I think it was 1993
http://youtu.be/72NWY9exEj0?t=3m11s

the street riots (1993)
http://youtu.be/YkPtrFy3We8
http://youtu.be/0QdLs0rp1ss

coup and riots 1991, human chains waiting for the tank attack to come--instead, general Lebed's tanks that deserted Red Army arrive and form protection circle.
http://youtu.be/Gp3lITfBYUQ



I remember every day and night of good ol 93 and 91 riots and coups and dodged many bullets.... hope it doesn't come to snipers and tanks here!

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by rimmerama

We're talking about what is, not what you want. Besides, prior to the 14th amendment, the bill of rights applied only to the federal government, so the bill of rights was not intended by the founders to limit local and state governments, but hey, what the heck... So you believe a cop killer who gets out of prison should be allowed to own .50 cal machine gun? Sweet, kind of nutty, but okay...

...You also believe that a person should be allowed to say, make criminal threats? Should be allowed to incite? Should be allowed to defame? You believe child pornography should be legal as well... You believe that someone should be able to walk into a public meeting and start yelling at people and being disruptive... That's all speech. Buddy, I suspect you're in the minority.

And once again, you say the Mercedes driver was in the 1% even though you have no evidence to suggest they are in the 1%.

Having actually watched the film, the protesters were in the street and this 1%er bumped one, he then banged on the hood to vget the drivers attention. Then the driver drove into the crowd sending two people to the hospital. I my book the driver is at fault except that apparently Mercedes owners get to run over people at will. In California the pedestrain has the right of way.

I haven't a clue what you are telling me about threats or child pornography. Seems Democracy only works for you when you are in charge.

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by Boompa

Just because I was a Police Officer and a Supervisor doesn't mean I support local authority to limit Constitutional Rights. If I believe "The Congress Shall Make NO LAW" applies to the 2nd Amendment I have to believe the same is true with the 1st Amendment. Now that I am retired I am free to express those opinions I could not while on the payroll.

As for the driver of the Mercedes apparfently being one of the 1% entitles him to use his vehicle to bump people out of his way. Should they not move fast enough or bump his hood he then gets to drive over them. The police did nothing to him.

Originally Posted by rimmerama

We're talking about what is, not what you want. Besides, prior to the 14th amendment, the bill of rights applied only to the federal government, so the bill of rights was not intended by the founders to limit local and state governments, but hey, what the heck... So you believe a cop killer who gets out of prison should be allowed to own .50 cal machine gun? Sweet, kind of nutty, but okay...

...You also believe that a person should be allowed to say, make criminal threats? Should be allowed to incite? Should be allowed to defame? You believe child pornography should be legal as well... You believe that someone should be able to walk into a public meeting and start yelling at people and being disruptive... That's all speech. Buddy, I suspect you're in the minority.

And once again, you say the Mercedes driver was in the 1% even though you have no evidence to suggest they are in the 1%.

"Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, U.S. Treaties, and Federal Statutes as "the supreme law of the land." The text decrees these to be the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state. (Note that the word "shall" is used, which makes it a necessity, a compulsion.) However, the Supremacy Clause only applies if the federal government is acting in pursuit of its constitutionally authorized powers, as noted by the phrase "in pursuance thereof" in the actual text of the Supremacy Clause itself. The "supremacy clause" is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts. - United States Senate[1]

No local authority has the right to operate in contradiction to the Federal Constitution and Bill of Rights. Period.