Which roads most require repaving? (money, top, highway)

[jade408]

Originally Posted by BoringOldMike4554

Why is this such an issue around California? Without the freezing and thawing that a lot of other states need to deal with, I would have thought California would have some of the better roads in the U.S.

CA doesn't fund or prioritize street maintenance and they wait until the last possible second to repair the road.

[mayorhaggar]

Taxes in California go to paying for our massive prison system and government pensions, rather than roads and schools.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Civil Engineers here must all be homies lacking good experience with rain, or they take short cuts. Roads here drain exceedingly poorly as compared with ones in other places, especially when compared with Europe. No doubt this makes the potholes worse.

[andyadhi01]

Roads all over bay area are pretty bad but two worst ones:

1. El Camino real from Millbrae to San Mateo is in pathetic shape
2. 880 through Oakland is the worst freeway I have seen in the whole US. CA freeways in general are in miserable shape compared to any other state.

[sonarrat]

880 from 80 down through Oakland has been repaved recently and it's not so bad. The worst now is probably 101 traveling northbound from Morgan Hill to San Jose. They built a great new freeway and then almost immediately changed the alignment, meaning they had to tear up a bunch of Bott's Dots. So now there's a huge tire-killing gash in two of the four lanes all the way to San Jose, and it has been that way for over a decade.

[fizbin]

Originally Posted by BoringOldMike4554

Why is this such an issue around California? Without the freezing and thawing that a lot of other states need to deal with, I would have thought California would have some of the better roads in the U.S.

Prop 13, the fool's tool that took California from near the top of all states to the bottom in just about every way imaginable.

[dmode]

Lately the road conditions seemed to have improved quite a bit. I drove 100 miles from Palm Springs to AZ border on I-10 and the pavement was better than anything I have driven in the country. Also, the 680 was getting paved and I drove on the new pavement from the tunnels all the way to Danville and it was in amazing condition. Although, they really need to repave (not just patch) parts of the 101 and all LA freeways.

[hsw]

NYC region has higher income taxes, far higher housing costs and far worse roads

Germany has arguably world's smoothest, fastest fwys and $10/gall fuel (w/fuel taxes dedicated to roads) and Mercedes which cost ~50% more than same Mercedes in CA

CA (like NYC) has world's highest paid cops/fire/teachers/hc/gvt workers....their outcomes (or lack thereof) vs lower-paid peers in TX or Germany are fairly obvious for all to see....cost of repaving rds is fairly trivial vs costs of millions of welfare, make-work gvt jobs

That said, 280 btwn SF and Cuper is fairly decent and fast, esp at any workaholic hrs....not aware of any urban fwy in world with better efficiency

SF rds are a disaster...need to use the few somewhat smoother rds in FinDt and PacHts to get around the relevant parts of the commie town (thankfully 90+% of SF is fairly irrelevant to anyone with money and a 3-dig IQ)

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by hsw

(thankfully 90+% of SF is fairly irrelevant to anyone with money and a 3-dig IQ)

Thankfully, posts like these are not taken seriously by 99.9% of C-D users.

[mayorhaggar]

Originally Posted by hsw

NYC region has higher income taxes, far higher housing costs and far worse roads

Germany has arguably world's smoothest, fastest fwys and $10/gall fuel (w/fuel taxes dedicated to roads) and Mercedes which cost ~50% more than same Mercedes in CA

CA (like NYC) has world's highest paid cops/fire/teachers/hc/gvt workers....their outcomes (or lack thereof) vs lower-paid peers in TX or Germany are fairly obvious for all to see....cost of repaving rds is fairly trivial vs costs of millions of welfare, make-work gvt jobs

That said, 280 btwn SF and Cuper is fairly decent and fast, esp at any workaholic hrs....not aware of any urban fwy in world with better efficiency

SF rds are a disaster...need to use the few somewhat smoother rds in FinDt and PacHts to get around the relevant parts of the commie town (thankfully 90+% of SF is fairly irrelevant to anyone with money and a 3-dig IQ)