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Old 11-03-2016, 10:31 AM
 
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Seems like it has been hyped up so much that natives are annoyed people move there because of the hype, drive up rents, and then rant about how bad it is right before moving out. If people had a more realistic perception of it they wouldn't do that.
That's not really the point I was responding to.
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Old 11-04-2016, 02:59 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood, CA
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Agreed OP.

Place blows in all categories.
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Old 11-06-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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the pop culture history alone is what makes SF legendary, let alone factoring in the current food scene, nature and progressive new ideas constantly coming out of the area.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: East Bay, CA
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The pop culture that made SF so cool has eroded away. If you like tech bros and new money, SF is a pretty sweet playground, but don't come here expecting the summer of love or a booming art scene- most of those people fled to the East Bay, Portland, Seattle, Denver, and Austin.

Oakland is a throwback to what SF used to be, but even that's starting to go away since nobody can afford to live here anymore either.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: PDX
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actually, if you were able to buy something- even your own apartment - in the 90s its pretty sweet- you stay- know all your neighbors, maybe even put some money down on a local bar on Haight st (like a coworker of mine did) to keep you busy after you retire (he's older than me)-
walk everywhere, a million tasty and cheap eats and local venues to see stuff and do, a huge park to run and walk your dog in-

SF is great - the beach, the redwoods, a million nooks and crannies to explore and enjoy, people-watching--

I loved my city- and no its not overrated.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: East Bay, CA
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I was mainly talking about newcomers, hoping to find what left a long time ago. Yeah, there are people who've been here a while that still retain the SF spirit that made it so famous, but lots of those people are leaving and being replaced by people who would rather look at their phones all night at a bar or during dinner than try and have a meaningful conversation with a stranger. You must really live in a bubble if you don't think SF and the Bay Area have changed dramatically within the last 3-4 years. I've been here since late 2006, and it's not at all the same as it used to be.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:26 PM
 
Location: PDX
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I was mainly talking about newcomers, hoping to find what left a long time ago. Yeah, there are people who've been here a while that still retain the SF spirit that made it so famous, but lots of those people are leaving and being replaced by people who would rather look at their phones all night at a bar or during dinner than try and have a meaningful conversation with a stranger. You must really live in a bubble if you don't think SF and the Bay Area have changed dramatically within the last 3-4 years. I've been here since late 2006, and it's not at all the same as it used to be.

whats that saying, if you dip your hand in the river twice, its never the same handful of water...

Things are always changing, but if you look closely theres the same old bones.... theres old timers and the people and things that stay...
(My ex's side of the family have streets in SF named after them, and hey they can tell you how things have changed too)...
but its the force of nature that things change too- better or worse,

ironically I moved to Portland (o ad nauseum the cries around changing for the worse, the awful newcomers, et al) - its where my fiancé lives, and so my new home, and you know what - i like it- its not as comfy as SF was but it will be,
its the mutable nature of places that they change, ya gotta roll with it....

and I still think San Francisco is a great old city.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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This is another 'I Hate XYZ' thread that lives on and on and on - even though the original hater (the OP) hasn't logged on in over 2 years.

What a shame.
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