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Old 12-12-2011, 05:55 PM
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Location: Oakland
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Oh is that why every bart station has a giant parking lot next to it?
Yep. So you don't have to drive your car ALL THE WAY to where you're going. It's a hard concept to understand, I know.
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Old 12-12-2011, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I have a car. If there is no traffic, it is a 12 minute drive from my house to Downtown SF. I almost never drive to SF. By the time I factor in the cost of parking or the cost/time of circling the block looking for a space, transit is faster. Most of the time people do not factor all of that in. If you go to the Mission or the Haight on a weekend, factor in 20-30 minutes to find parking. That's not very fun.

Or if you go to a sporting event or other big event. If all of the surface streets are packed, it takes forever to get out. I'd rather hop on transit and avoid dealing with the headaches.
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Old 12-12-2011, 08:41 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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Good luck enjoying Napa, Capitola, and Tahoe with out a car.
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:19 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I have a car. If there is no traffic, it is a 12 minute drive from my house to Downtown SF. I almost never drive to SF. By the time I factor in the cost of parking or the cost/time of circling the block looking for a space, transit is faster. Most of the time people do not factor all of that in. If you go to the Mission or the Haight on a weekend, factor in 20-30 minutes to find parking. That's not very fun.

Or if you go to a sporting event or other big event. If all of the surface streets are packed, it takes forever to get out. I'd rather hop on transit and avoid dealing with the headaches.
It doesn't make any sense really to drive into the city. Everything you said is absolutely true. Not to mention the gas wasted looking for parking besides the time spent. Berkeley has eliminated that problem. You simply can't park there without a permit. I didn't realize this when I moved back here and now have a nice collection of tickets. It's not too improbable to think that other cities may start implementing their own versions of this.
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Old 12-12-2011, 10:57 PM
 
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What is the point of extending it in the middle of nowhere? That area is full of freeways and a very car dependent area. The useful BART extension will be having a line from Millbrae to San Jose along 101 so that the areas with highest number of jobs will have faster public transit.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:14 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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What is the point of extending it in the middle of nowhere? That area is full of freeways and a very car dependent area. The useful BART extension will be having a line from Millbrae to San Jose along 101 so that the areas with highest number of jobs will have faster public transit.
Actually andy that is also a future plan. BART is planned to circle the bay at least the southern part. This "extension to nowhere" is likely the first part of that. At one time, BART lines ended in Daly City and Concord. Pittsburg/Bay Point and Millbrae came later and the line to Dublin was added completely new off of the Fremont line.
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Old 12-12-2011, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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It doesn't make any sense really to drive into the city. Everything you said is absolutely true. Not to mention the gas wasted looking for parking besides the time spent. Berkeley has eliminated that problem. You simply can't park there without a permit. I didn't realize this when I moved back here and now have a nice collection of tickets. It's not too improbable to think that other cities may start implementing their own versions of this.
Oakland has neighborhoods like this as well. The permit zone is immediately adjacent to the main commercial thoroughfare or near park. The permits are less common a bit further away from the commercial areas.


Berkeley is actually pretty evil, they excluded all of the Cal dorms addresses from being eligible for the permits, so students can't live on campus and drive to school. There are maybe 100 spots that aren't permitted around campus, and even less with the construction around Memorial Stadium (Piedmont Ave between Bancroft and Haas business school was one of the only parts of Berkeley with no permits, meters or time limits.
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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There are maybe 100 spots that aren't permitted around campus, and even less with the construction around Memorial Stadium (Piedmont Ave between Bancroft and Haas business school was one of the only parts of Berkeley with no permits, meters or time limits.
Which makes it such a joy to find a spot before a Greek Theater show.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:35 AM
 
Location: A bit further north than before
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Good luck enjoying Napa, Capitola, and Tahoe with out a car.
A one-day rental is a lot cheaper than owning a car full time!
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:35 AM
 
Location: In them thar hills
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What is the point of extending it in the middle of nowhere? That area is full of freeways and a very car dependent area. The useful BART extension will be having a line from Millbrae to San Jose along 101 so that the areas with highest number of jobs will have faster public transit.
Wrong. As I keep repeating, the noted extension is meant to off load 880, 680 as well as, improve upon the current AC/SCV bus connections from the Fremont BART Station. It appears that the proposed extension crosses the SCV light rail. This extension has NOTHING to do with the Peninsula Corridor.

Got geography?
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