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Old 12-14-2011, 02:10 AM
 
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I like cool weather too, and I didn't find SF weather to be anywhere near as humid as the North East, much less Atlanta. I prefer windbreaker jacket kind of weather, which is what SF is all about. It's the Air-Conditioned City.
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Old 12-14-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I like cool weather too, and I didn't find SF weather to be anywhere near as humid as the North East, much less Atlanta. I prefer windbreaker jacket kind of weather, which is what SF is all about. It's the Air-Conditioned City.
It is almost never humid here, unless it is raining. Occasionally an exceptionally humid day is maybe 25% humidity.
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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Bay area is segregated.
I'm not talking about East Bay, but mostly about anything from Marine County, SF down to South Bay. I see segregation every day. And yes, I seen "Mexican occupants go home" signs in Mountain View. In LA, this wouldn't last a minute. You can't compare melting pot like LA to a segregated yuppie playground like most of Bay Area.
Sorry, don't agree. Never seen a sign like that. And almost all South Bay Area cities have huge mexican, chinese, Indian and white populations. In LA, there is vast swath of land called South LA that is completely segregated. And don't tell me that you never visited the "South Bay" in LA (Manhattan Beach, Hermosa etc.). That's real segregation.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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SF is foggy in the summer. That is the worst weather in SF, because you are expecting warm and sunny. Anywhere outside of SF likely has sun, so this problem is pretty easy to solve. The sun generally makes an appearance most days in SF outside of rainy season. Not so in Seattle. The grey season is pretty much grey the entire time with rae breaks for sun. Seattle might have better summer weather, if for you summer = shorts.

As an african-american woman, I do not find Seattle diverse. It is mostly white, and then asian. African and Latinos are much less visible and tend to live in segregated neighborhoods. Generally in the Bay Area, you can't make an assumption about where someone lives based on their ethnicity. There are some neighborhoods that are a bit more segregated, but people of all ethnic groups generally live all over.

In terms of raising a family, I'd imagine Seattle would be much easier, since it is so much cheaper.
I pretty much concur with jade. Seattle is less diverse as a rule but there appears to be even slightly less racial tension in Seattle. Both cities are close to nature and both are surrounded by a lot of water. Water that is cold year round so there is't much evaporation to create the mugginess one experiences in the south.

SF's weather is cool to mild most of the year with most of the rain falling between November and March. Seattle is mild to rather cold although Atlanta can sometimes get quite cold as well. Seattle's rain occurs from mid October to early June but can happen at any month although summers are usually pretty dry and warmer than SF. The difference is how the rain falls in both cities; Seattle's rain is more of a drizzle to light rain to mist that never ends. San Francisco's rain can fall in crippling downpours at times similar to what you get in the south but is usually a much colder rain.
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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I pretty much concur with jade. Seattle is less diverse as a rule but there appears to be even slightly less racial tension in Seattle. Both cities are close to nature and both are surrounded by a lot of water. Water that is cold year round so there is't much evaporation to create the mugginess one experiences in the south.

SF's weather is cool to mild most of the year with most of the rain falling between November and March. Seattle is mild to rather cold although Atlanta can sometimes get quite cold as well. Seattle's rain occurs from mid October to early June but can happen at any month although summers are usually pretty dry and warmer than SF. The difference is how the rain falls in both cities; Seattle's rain is more of a drizzle to light rain to mist that never ends. San Francisco's rain can fall in crippling downpours at times similar to what you get in the south but is usually a much colder rain.
And thus the big downside to Seattle. The fog is there in SF, but it also breaks every day. The rain will come in the winter, but there are also more intermittent breaks. Watch the radar the next 3-4 months for the Pac NW, you'll almost see a never ending sludge of precipitation lighting the map up green.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:58 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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You can't compare melting pot like LA to a segregated yuppie playground like most of Bay Area.
Melting pot my ass. Save for the West Side the Los Angeles metro area is a Mexican monoculture with a few black, Armenian and Chinese pockets. If you want to make generalizations about a place you don't live in so can I.
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:56 PM
 
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Melting pot my ass. Save for the West Side the Los Angeles metro area is a Mexican monoculture with a few black, Armenian and Chinese pockets. If you want to make generalizations about a place you don't live in so can I.
X-cuse me, I lived in LA for many years, and in many different parts of LA. You know nothing about LA, so if I were you I'd not try to talk about something you got no clue about.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:38 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Thanks for all the comments guys. I think me and my g/f have all but eliminated Seattle from the list, primarily because of the weather. I just can't imagine clouds for 9 months of the year. It was cloudy here in Atlanta for a couple days, and I was already getting ticked off lol.

I also think SF will have the green/foodie/startup energy I'm looking for. One thing I do not like is the car situation. I know a previous poster who mentioned spray painting cars and bashing all windshields on a street was probably either an exaggeration or a freak incident that is rare, but I do have a somewhat nice car, that I would prefer not to have to sell(I would live to drive around other areas in the west for travel as well), so a somewhat clean area would be desired. I was looking at some street views of Cole Valley, Marina, and some areas near AT&T Park, and it seems pretty nice there.

I've also found that there are a ton of areas in SF that are distinct where I think it would make sense for me to rent an Airbnb for a few weeks to check out the area before moving.

I also have a question about the SV area. The south bay is an option, but I just don't want to be smack dab in a suburb or an area with no culture. San Jose seems to be pretty nice, but rather far from SF. Any thoughts? Thanks again.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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Thanks for all the comments guys. I think me and my g/f have all but eliminated Seattle from the list, primarily because of the weather. I just can't imagine clouds for 9 months of the year. It was cloudy here in Atlanta for a couple days, and I was already getting ticked off lol.

I also think SF will have the green/foodie/startup energy I'm looking for. One thing I do not like is the car situation. I know a previous poster who mentioned spray painting cars and bashing all windshields on a street was probably either an exaggeration or a freak incident that is rare, but I do have a somewhat nice car, that I would prefer not to have to sell(I would live to drive around other areas in the west for travel as well), so a somewhat clean area would be desired. I was looking at some street views of Cole Valley, Marina, and some areas near AT&T Park, and it seems pretty nice there.

I've also found that there are a ton of areas in SF that are distinct where I think it would make sense for me to rent an Airbnb for a few weeks to check out the area before moving.

I also have a question about the SV area. The south bay is an option, but I just don't want to be smack dab in a suburb or an area with no culture. San Jose seems to be pretty nice, but rather far from SF. Any thoughts? Thanks again.
Spray painting? Probably rare. Car break ins? In SF it is enough to be alarming I'm afraid, I know 5 people that have gotten their car broken into.. I'm sure somebody could pull up actual statistics. I've known several people with car break ins in Chicago also... even in nice areas. From windows smashed in, cd players ripped out, tires being taken off and up on cinder blocks, hub caps, you name it... if you park your car on the street I certainly wouldn't be shocked if it happens. And you will most definitely get side marks on all 4 ends of your car from parallel parkers. The way I see it, if you have a nice car in the city, you probably have enough money for the 150-200 a month for garaged parking (possibly even in the suburbs near a stop or family members house). If not, the next step down is to get a beater car... Then, just don't have a car at all.
I've noticed cars that are street raced such as hondas/mazdas/vw/toyotas are often targets for hubcaps/rims and other random pieces off the cars, otherwise they are probably going for your cd player, gps unit (if they see the suction cup marks on your window) or something they see laying in your seat.
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:14 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Spray painting? Probably rare. Car break ins? In SF it is enough to be alarming I'm afraid, I know 5 people that have gotten their car broken into.. I'm sure somebody could pull up actual statistics. I've known several people with car break ins in Chicago also... even in nice areas. From windows smashed in, cd players ripped out, tires being taken off and up on cinder blocks, hub caps, you name it... if you park your car on the street I certainly wouldn't be shocked if it happens. And you will most definitely get side marks on all 4 ends of your car from parallel parkers. The way I see it, if you have a nice car in the city, you probably have enough money for the 150-200 a month for garaged parking (possibly even in the suburbs near a stop or family members house). If not, the next step down is to get a beater car... Then, just don't have a car at all.
I've noticed cars that are street raced such as hondas/mazdas/vw/toyotas are often targets for hubcaps/rims and other random pieces off the cars, otherwise they are probably going for your cd player, gps unit (if they see the suction cup marks on your window) or something they see laying in your seat.
I tend to keep anything of value out of my car, or at least out of sight. We've had a recent rash where about 3 dozen vehicles were broken into in one night, and the other day a car was broken into outside my condo in an area which is supposedly one of the nicer areas of Atlanta.

I was just interested in knowing how random it occurs. Just like you mentioned, Hondas, Nissans, and the racer type cars as well as Escalades are usually targeted, and when you have something visible from the outside as well (I had my $30 radar detector stolen a few years ago in a mall parking deck and left with a nice $200 glass repair bill ).

Usually here, the nicer cars are left alone while the black market/chop shop desired cars are often the target for their lack of anti-theft systems and what I would assume healthier used-parts market.
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