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Old 01-08-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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I visited san fran yesterday, took the bart from airport to downtown, costs 8.10 each each way, I have been to nyc, boston, philly, la, seattle, portland, and others and they cost more than 2.50. I was shocked that it was that high, its not a commuter rail but more of a subway. is it not federally funded or something? i mean, for a family of 5 wanting to go somewhere and back, it would cost 80 - 100 depending on where you want to go roundtrip, which is insane.
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:40 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The charge is based on distance, and the airport has an extra surcharge on it. Other routes on BART won't be as expensive. And you only really use BART to get to areas outside SF. Muni (at $2 a ride, with one free transfer) is a lot more reasonable.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:37 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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BART is it's own district, with a board of directors that make the decisions.
They have since been known for having very well paid union employees,
and the tax money has not been sufficient to cover costs. They have also lost previous state funding as California has suffered in the poor economy. To reduce their deficit fares have risen, also they are charging for parking at stations. While the light rail here in Seattle is a bargain by comparison, I would expect it to go up soon too, just as thye state has started tolling the 520 bridge, and King County Metro (bus) is going to not only raise fares but eliminate the free downtown rides.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:11 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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I visited san fran yesterday, took the bart from airport to downtown, costs 8.10 each each way, I have been to nyc, boston, philly, la, seattle, portland, and others and they cost more than 2.50. I was shocked that it was that high, its not a commuter rail but more of a subway. is it not federally funded or something? i mean, for a family of 5 wanting to go somewhere and back, it would cost 80 - 100 depending on where you want to go roundtrip, which is insane.

That's because you took it from the airport (they have a $5 dollar surcharge). From Millbrae (same distance), it would be about $3.10.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:54 PM
 
Location: South Korea
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It IS a commuter rail system, especially in the burbs. In SF they run 4 different lines down the same tunnel so the trains are way more convenient, plus a ride from one end of SF to the other is still $1.85 I think.

But yes they do gouge you. For a 20 minute ride from North Oakland to downtown SF it costs $3.50 each way, which adds up to $140 a month if you ride to and from work 5 days a week. In Chicago their monthly pass is like $86 a month and you can ride from one end of the city to the other for $2.25 or whatever. AND the monthly pass means you can ride as much as you want all day every day, including on weekends. BART stupidly doesn't have any monthly passes. Jerks.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:08 PM
 
Location: anywhere but Seattle
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If you think that's ridiculous, BART doesn't even go to the bay area's largest city.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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BART is it's own district, with a board of directors that make the decisions.
They have since been known for having very well paid union employees,
and the tax money has not been sufficient to cover costs. They have also lost previous state funding as California has suffered in the poor economy. To reduce their deficit fares have risen, also they are charging for parking at stations. While the light rail here in Seattle is a bargain by comparison, I would expect it to go up soon too, just as thye state has started tolling the 520 bridge, and King County Metro (bus) is going to not only raise fares but eliminate the free downtown rides.
I will have to agree with this as I watched the exact same thing happen in San Diego. Trolley fares have risen as it became more accessible and the MTS system eliminated transfers altogether. BART as mentioned is it's own separate district/system and prices are set completely independently from the other systems which in the Bay Area, are also independent and rather numerous.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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That's because you took it from the airport (they have a $5 dollar surcharge). From Millbrae (same distance), it would be about $3.10.
Forgot about this. This is true too.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:33 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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I'm still waiting to see if the new seats ever come
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:56 AM
 
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I visited san fran yesterday, took the bart from airport to downtown, costs 8.10 each each way, I have been to nyc, boston, philly, la, seattle, portland, and others and they cost more than 2.50. I was shocked that it was that high, its not a commuter rail but more of a subway. is it not federally funded or something? i mean, for a family of 5 wanting to go somewhere and back, it would cost 80 - 100 depending on where you want to go roundtrip, which is insane.
BART has a line item on my property tax bill as does AC Transit
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