Already tired of San Francisco (San Diego, Oakland: hotel, tech job, transferring to)
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I feel like this discussion has been beaten to death in C&D. How many threads there are about moving from NYC to SF ? And every thread has the same discussion.
NYC = megapolis, hustling, bustling, restaurants, bars, clubs etc.
SF = some urban life + nature.
It is really simple and not that complicated.
Off topic but it seems like people bounce between these two cities like crazy. NYC and SF are similar for the fact that majority of folks who move to NYC or SF are yuppies/young dreamers/folks chasing a career (or immigrants, of course). NYC/SF isn't like Houston or Charlotte where families are flocking too to set down roots. Notice the "moving to SF" threads are all from young people moving from some other old expensive city.
I went to NYC and stumbled upon a bar for Bay Area new-to-NYC transplants where everyone was watching the 49ers and sporting their jerseys...LOL.
But OP, i'm sure you can find a job in NYC. Their tech scene is thriving from what I read.
Sounds like a case of unrealistic expectations on the OP's part in the first place, which seems to be common among the "millennial" generation. My daughter was dying to live in NYC when she was graduating from high school a couple of years ago. She had built up this mental picture of how fantastic, exciting, romantic, etc., everything would be if she could just move there. I told her to start putting together the facts of how she would live her life from day-to-day, such as where she would live, work, shop, eat, socialize, which rapidly dispelled her idealized image of NYC.
I told her to start putting together the facts of how she would live her life from day-to-day, such as where she would live, work, shop, eat, socialize, which rapidly dispelled her idealized image of NYC.
Way to be a buzzkill, dad. Could at least have told her to move to Chicago instead. Really though so long as you have a job lined up in any big city like SF or NYC, everything else falls into place. If you're still unhappy, nobody's forcing you to stay put.
Denver has it's own mountain parks and Jefferson County (suburban Denver) has plenty of open space less than 30 mins from downtown. From my house in downtown denver, i was able to get to Loveland ski area in 45 mins. Plus, these places have 1/100th the amount of people you would find in Muir Woods.
Now, hiking in the East Bay regional parks can't be beat for urban access. From my house in Oakland, I have access to canyons, fire trails, and trails leading to redwood parks, etc. within 5 ins WALK from my front door.
Either way, if the whiners in San Francisco would ever leave their 10 sq. mile space, they could understand why it is damn expensive here and despite the price, quality of life is quite high. I left Denver living comfortable life about ayear ago and am not looking back, at all... But, it is a bit laughable to these whiners that a world class city means pretty cocktail waitresses and more experiences that are catered to tourists? What about diversity, access to open space, progressive growth policies, WATER!, beauty, etc.? I don't know, to me that is what makes this place more desirable than most places I have visited in the US and abroad.
Perhaps I misunderstood do to the wording of the previous posts I was responding to. Not the first time that's happened on C-D. I have always been in agreement that SF is expensive beyond all logic so what's that make those who are willing to pay for it? The East Bay Regional park system cannot be beaten anywhere. it's the largest urban park district in the entire country and many of these parks, especially Tilden and Redwood seem like the nearest town should be 100+ miles away, not just over a ridge. And this is containing the major urban areas of the east Bay. EBRPD even oversees some state property.
What's so good about SF again? I've been living in the City for about a year and it sucks! I hate it and want out but I don't know if I can move?
World class prices for a non-World Class city. The people are standoffish, unattractive, sloppy, weird, nerdy or awkward, the homeless, the filth and the delusion that this city is world-class always makes me chuckle. I feel so ripped off when I'm writing my rent check for $3,000 at the first of the month for the privilege of living in this small dump. Whenever I'm in NYC or LA or London I feel so alive. This place seems so cold. Whenever I mention this it's "well the weather is great (looking forward to another AWESOME chilly summer!) and we have great access to hiking." BIG WHOOP. Hiking. Exciting!
But do I even have a choice? Being in the tech industry, it seems that there are less opportunities once you leave this area and there is no way in hell i'm moving down closer to work in suburban office park hell in the Valley. Especially at my young age and with my interests. Oh God, why did I have to be into computers why did I have to be into computers...
The only plus is with the money I make I can afford to high tail it out of here in the next 10 years or so, but 10 years..Ugh.
There are other places. Just bite the bullet and move. Start your job search. Choose among the places you do enjoy. Don't wait. If you aren't married, and have no little ones move now, once you do you'll never be able to afford it. And, I agree w/ your experiences. I visited there before. No one is friendly, everyone acts like you fell off a space ship if you dare smile in a store or anywhere public. I could see how you would feel the way you do after only a year. There are plenty of beautiful coastal cities in CA. Or how about Washington, Oregon coast. Pick, do the research, get a job and move. Do yourself a big favor...move asap. Get a real life that you can enjoy.
Last edited by JanND; 03-14-2012 at 08:39 PM..
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What's so good about SF again? I've been living in the City for about a year and it sucks! I hate it and want out but I don't know if I can move?
World class prices for a non-World Class city. The people are standoffish, unattractive, sloppy, weird, nerdy or awkward, the homeless, the filth and the delusion that this city is world-class always makes me chuckle. I feel so ripped off when I'm writing my rent check for $3,000 at the first of the month for the privilege of living in this small dump. Whenever I'm in NYC or LA or London I feel so alive. This place seems so cold. Whenever I mention this it's "well the weather is great (looking forward to another AWESOME chilly summer!) and we have great access to hiking." BIG WHOOP. Hiking. Exciting!
But do I even have a choice? Being in the tech industry, it seems that there are less opportunities once you leave this area and there is no way in hell i'm moving down closer to work in suburban office park hell in the Valley. Especially at my young age and with my interests. Oh God, why did I have to be into computers why did I have to be into computers...
The only plus is with the money I make I can afford to high tail it out of here in the next 10 years or so, but 10 years..Ugh.
Interesting (and expressive) perspective.
Keep these two ideas (courtesy of RW Emerson) in mind wherever you live:
NextBus.com - It helps, a lot. Unlike in NYC, you can actually track transit here. It's pretty spot on for MUNI.
You're a sweetheart.
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Originally Posted by bigdumbgod
OK, we won't talk about NY guidos or Snookies invading our liberal, communist, pot-smoking, Santorum-hating dreck of a habitat.
You don't get it. The lack of activity bothers me far more than the left-leaning nature of the place.
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Originally Posted by rkwalton
I don't see why people can't simply appreciate NYC for what it is and do the same regarding San Francisco. If you don't like it, go. No one is making you stay.
It's not that easy to just get up and leave in this economy. Especially if the OP is being paid well here.
I totally get what the OP is saying. This place isn't exactly prime hunting ground for single guys in their twenties. I mean my batting average isn't going to go down, but for most guys it will.
What's so good about SF again? I've been living in the City for about a year and it sucks! I hate it and want out but I don't know if I can move?
World class prices for a non-World Class city. The people are standoffish, unattractive, sloppy, weird, nerdy or awkward, the homeless, the filth and the delusion that this city is world-class always makes me chuckle. I feel so ripped off when I'm writing my rent check for $3,000 at the first of the month for the privilege of living in this small dump. Whenever I'm in NYC or LA or London I feel so alive. This place seems so cold. Whenever I mention this it's "well the weather is great (looking forward to another AWESOME chilly summer!) and we have great access to hiking." BIG WHOOP. Hiking. Exciting!
But do I even have a choice? Being in the tech industry, it seems that there are less opportunities once you leave this area and there is no way in hell i'm moving down closer to work in suburban office park hell in the Valley. Especially at my young age and with my interests. Oh God, why did I have to be into computers why did I have to be into computers...
The only plus is with the money I make I can afford to high tail it out of here in the next 10 years or so, but 10 years..Ugh.
What's so good about SF again? I've been living in the City for about a year and it sucks! I hate it and want out but I don't know if I can move?
World class prices for a non-World Class city. The people are standoffish, unattractive, sloppy, weird, nerdy or awkward, the homeless, the filth and the delusion that this city is world-class always makes me chuckle. I feel so ripped off when I'm writing my rent check for $3,000 at the first of the month for the privilege of living in this small dump. Whenever I'm in NYC or LA or London I feel so alive. This place seems so cold. Whenever I mention this it's "well the weather is great (looking forward to another AWESOME chilly summer!) and we have great access to hiking." BIG WHOOP. Hiking. Exciting!
But do I even have a choice? Being in the tech industry, it seems that there are less opportunities once you leave this area and there is no way in hell i'm moving down closer to work in suburban office park hell in the Valley. Especially at my young age and with my interests. Oh God, why did I have to be into computers why did I have to be into computers...
The only plus is with the money I make I can afford to high tail it out of here in the next 10 years or so, but 10 years..Ugh.
Somebody call a whaaumbulance!!
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