San Francisco Bay Area Facts: (Oakland: airport, to move, metropolitan area)

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by EdJS

Yes, a city can occupy two different counties. In several different ways. The example of NYC has been given. Naperville, Illinois partially occupies two adjacent counties. That is, the border between DuPage and Will counties cuts across the city.

It is a mistake to think that cities form a hierarchy below that of counties in the United States. They are, in general, totally independent of them.

Yep, as is Baltimore which is an independent city, not part of a county despite the fact that Baltimore County is near it.

[bentobox34]

Originally Posted by fashionguy

Oh come on. It is a name. Does it have to be this complicated? Unlike LA, San Francisco actually doesn't have a widely accepted abbreviation name.

San Francisco does have a widely used abbreviation - SF. Besides being widely used, this abbreviation has the advantage that it uses the actual first letters of the actual name of the city. I've also heard it frequently in spoken conversation.

Whether SF or SFO is more acceptable is anyone's judgement, as long as it doesn't confuse the reader, because neither of them is that widely used orally.

It's not anyone's judgement. SF has the two letters that begin the words San Francisco, SFO has an additional letter with no signification. So it is objectively a less accurate abbreviation.

I wonder why San Francisco is so often referred to by the name of it's airport? I don't usually see this for other cities. No one writes LAX to refer to the city of Los Angeles, JFK for New York, ORD for Chicago, CDG for Paris, or LHR for London. I've never seen SVO as an abbreviation for Moscow, NRT for Tokyo, or YYZ for Toronto. People only use those codes to refer to the actual airports in those cities, but for some reason SFO is considered an abbreviation for SF?

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by bentobox34

I wonder why San Francisco is so often referred to by the name of it's airport?

Who does that?

[mstnghu2]

Originally Posted by bigdumbgod

Who does that?

It happens in this forum all the time.

[edsg25]

so if SFO is in incorporated SF, does that mean the patch of earth next to Great America in Santa Clara is also now incorporated SF? and did John Sutter discover silicon in the american river?

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by edsg25

so if SFO is in incorporated SF, does that mean the patch of earth next Great America in Santa Clara is also now incorporated SF?

Nope. Niners ain't in SF anymore.

[jsba]

nope and they wont be SF Niners for long, bet on it. i give it lets say 3-4 years before San Jose is up in arms about a team a mile away having the name of a city, what 30 something miles away. get ready for the San Francisco 49ers of San Jose or a much more disturbing San Jose (insert name here)

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by jsba

nope and they wont be SF Niners for long, bet on it. i give it lets say 3-4 years before San Jose is up in arms about a team a mile away having the name of a city, what 30 something miles away. get ready for the San Francisco 49ers of San Jose or a much more disturbing San Jose (insert name here)

They've said that "San Francisco 49ers" as a whole is a trademarked moniker. Santa Clara might want to add their name, but that almost certainly won't fly.

[jsba]

we shall see I'm not so sure the team will stay the 49ers. Im not a niners fan Its all Raiders baby, but i don't want to see them change their name. so fingers crossed they hold true to what they say. But so often teams don't.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by jsba

Its all Raiders baby.

Yes it is. Sounds increasingly likely they will stay in Oakland, and not have to share with the Niners, nor move to L.A.