Why are the Warriors in Oakland? (Bell, Brea: neighborhoods, family friendly, areas)
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you're delusional. there is a reason both warriors and A's want to leave Oakland. the splendors and whatever you think is so fantastic about that area obviously don't exist in the eyes of warriors and A's ownership. oh wait you're right and e eryonr is wrong right? there's absolutely nothing wrong with that area. and that's why the warriors and A's DONT want to leave.. right? lol wtf. polishing a turd by speaking positively about that area. it sucks. enjoy it soon without warriors and A's
Translation: Never been to Hegenberger. I doubt you've ever taken a step off of the pedestrian bridge or outside of the BART Station, and yet you continue to pretend like you have anything intelligent to say about the area.
why are you talking about 'hegenberger' as if the entire stretch of that street is being discussed? the only area pertinent to this discussion and any coliseum/oracle arena conversation is the immediate area around the bart station next to these buildings.
i'm sure in your mind hegenberger road is as nice as university ave in palo alto, broadway plaza in walnut creek, stevens creek blvd etc etc etc but to anybody who didnt grow up in the projects that area is a dump. lol@ getting all riled up about 'hegenberger road' like anyone cares about that place.. the only time i ever subject myself to this place is going to a's or warriors games. you can enjoy the check cashing places and fine dining establishments in this amazing avenue of classiness such as taco bell, burger king, and denny's. i want to live there now thanks
I don't even think I remember what the original thread topic was.
the question at hand is "why are the warriors in oakland"
the answer to this is because chris cohan is a piece of garbage who did nothing for this team.. he did manage to trick idiotic warriors fans into going to game after game and expecting only a "great time out" but never a winning product on the court.
the warriors are still in oakland because of him. if he cared/was smart he would've left that turd in oakland and moved the team back to San Francisco, a much better, classier and actually relevant city unlike oakland despite what anyone here wants to get mad about.
an arena in San Francisco instantly makes the club more high profile. what is "golden state".. what a joke of a team name. they didnt name it "oakland" warriors because golden state > oakland. its not the entire state's team.
the smart thing to do is move it to San Francisco. New arena, better name recognition, and it becomes more appealing to big name free agents, not the bum ass scrubs the team currently has as its roster.
no big name player wants to come here for a large number of reasons, one of them being the sorry ass arena and the fact that the team is in OAKLAND.
in conclusion, i hope joe lacob and that other moron guber do the right thing, the smart thing, the necessary thing and get this team out of that dump in oakland and into somewhere much nicer and appealing. like china basin near the Giants classic ballpark or somewhere near the piers. leave oakland to the garbage ass raiders.
why are you talking about 'hegenberger' as if the entire stretch of that street is being discussed? the only area pertinent to this discussion and any coliseum/oracle arena conversation is the immediate area around the bart station next to these buildings.
i'm sure in your mind hegenberger road is as nice as university ave in palo alto, broadway plaza in walnut creek, stevens creek blvd etc etc etc but to anybody who didnt grow up in the projects that area is a dump. lol@ getting all riled up about 'hegenberger road' like anyone cares about that place.. the only time i ever subject myself to this place is going to a's or warriors games. you can enjoy the check cashing places and fine dining establishments in this amazing avenue of classiness such as taco bell, burger king, and denny's. i want to live there now thanks
Everytime you type something about Oakland, you make yourself look even more ignorant and shallow than the last time.
You are definitely the gift that keeps on giving. lol
why are you talking about 'hegenberger' as if the entire stretch of that street is being discussed? the only area pertinent to this discussion and any coliseum/oracle arena conversation is the immediate area around the bart station next to these buildings.
Isn't the area near the Coliseum on Hegenberger home to a metal foundry, a leather works, a heavy trucking company, and other industrial businesses?
Here we go again with one set of posters acting like Oakland is has no redeeming qualities and cannot attract investment to bring people in and another set of posters making parts of the city out to be what they are clearly not. This city attracts the most extreme set of people on this site and IMHO you both are off the mark.
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Originally Posted by Nineties Flava
Translation: Never been to Hegenberger. I doubt you've ever taken a step off of the pedestrian bridge or outside of the BART Station, and yet you continue to pretend like you have anything intelligent to say about the area.
Unless you live in that area why the hell would anyone want to besides the In-n-Out in that trash filled Wal Mart parking lot? I worked in that area for a little bit and I go to A LOT of Warriors and A's games and never once have I heard someone suggest stepping foot anywhere outside of BART or the Coliseum/Arena parking lot except for In-n-Out. For people that LIVE in that area, it probably is alright and suffices but for people that come to games at the Coliseum and Arena from elsewhere the area blows big time. There is almost NOTHING to go out before or after a game there unless a crappy hotel/motel bar works, which sometimes it has to. I remember last season when me and my father were going to the Lakers/Warriors game we tried to find a good sports bar in Oakland somewhat close to the Coliseum and could not find ANYTHING, not even downtown so we ended up in a crappy 'sports bar' in some crappy airport hotel on Hegenberger along with several other fans before the game. Stop trying to make that area into something it's clearly not. No middle or upper middle class person wants to spend anytime in that area.
And Downtown isn't "completely" dead after 5 pm but let's get real, it is not "happening" either and lacks a lot. The area has a LONG way to go and it can get there but it leaves a lot to be desired currently.
But that's not to say those things can't change. The whole Coliseum City is a very good idea imo and can work, has worked in other cities.
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Originally Posted by expect
in conclusion, i hope joe lacob and that other moron guber do the right thing, the smart thing, the necessary thing and get this team out of that dump in oakland and into somewhere much nicer and appealing. like china basin near the Giants classic ballpark or somewhere near the piers. leave oakland to the garbage ass raiders.
Just curious, how many times did you ever go out in China Basin before the Giants moved there? Do you actually think that neighborhood existed as it is before Pac Bell was built? GIVE ME A BREAK! The ballpark being built was the catalyst that turned that industrial wasteland into what it is today! Stop pretending the Giants moved into some happening neighborhood when in actuality they helped create it by their shiny new ballpark being there. Given how damn overpriced SF is already, Oakland could do the same thing with the right leadership and planning.
Some of you write Oakland off too quickly as lacking any redeeming qualities that can't be improved upon but at the same time some of you are way to defensive and try to make out parts of the city to be what it is currently not.
Just curious, how many times did you ever go out in China Basin before the Giants moved there? Do you actually think that neighborhood existed as it is before Pac Bell was built? GIVE ME A BREAK! The ballpark being built was the catalyst that turned that industrial wasteland into what it is today! Stop pretending the Giants moved into some happening neighborhood when in actuality they helped create it by their shiny new ballpark being there. Given how damn overpriced SF is already, Oakland could do the same thing with the right leadership and planning.
Some of you write Oakland off too quickly as lacking any redeeming qualities that can't be improved upon but at the same time some of you are way to defensive and try to make out parts of the city to be what it is currently not.
Great comment!
China Basin and indeed the entire SOMA area was a dilapidated and seedy place back in the day, and much less vibrant than the Coliseum area is now, prior to the economic boom that swept through there beginning about 20 years ago.
Unless you live in that area why the hell would anyone want to besides the In-n-Out in that trash filled Wal Mart parking lot? I worked in that area for a little bit and I go to A LOT of Warriors and A's games and never once have I heard someone suggest stepping foot anywhere outside of BART or the Coliseum/Arena parking lot except for In-n-Out. For people that LIVE in that area, it probably is alright and suffices but for people that come to games at the Coliseum and Arena from elsewhere the area blows big time. There is almost NOTHING to go out before or after a game there unless a crappy hotel/motel bar works, which sometimes it has to. I remember last season when me and my father were going to the Lakers/Warriors game we tried to find a good sports bar in Oakland somewhat close to the Coliseum and could not find ANYTHING, not even downtown so we ended up in a crappy 'sports bar' in some crappy airport hotel on Hegenberger along with several other fans before the game. Stop trying to make that area into something it's clearly not. No middle or upper middle class person wants to spend anytime in that area.
And Downtown isn't "completely" dead after 5 pm but let's get real, it is not "happening" either and lacks a lot. The area has a LONG way to go and it can get there but it leaves a lot to be desired currently.
But that's not to say those things can't change. The whole Coliseum City is a very good idea imo and can work, has worked in other cities.
Expect claimed that the entire area around the Coliseum is a dangerous ****hole. I stated that that is false, which is obvious to anyone who knows the area. North of the BART Station is definitely the hood, below it is not. What I said was really that simple. It stated nothing about the quality of the offerings on Hegenberger right now, which I agree could be better than they are. The Hegenberger area is relatively safe though, which is why I called expect out on his ignorance.
I like that you assumed that I said something extreme though to warrant his extreme retorts. That's the real problem with Oakland-SF conversations on C-D... anytime anybody says something other than "Oakland is a crime-ridden ****hole" that person is seen as an Oakland booster, and especially when the person knows the areas being discussed 1000x better than the naysayers. It speaks to the bias of the forum that anything positive said about Oakland is seen as extreme and anything negative said about Oakland is the norm.
As far as sports bars go, you should have tried the JK Brickhouse on Adeline or the Go Sports bar on 8th & Broadway.
I won't bring back the DT conversation from the dead again because it is indeed off-topic.
And Downtown isn't "completely" dead after 5 pm but let's get real, it is not "happening" either and lacks a lot. The area has a LONG way to go and it can get there but it leaves a lot to be desired currently.
That's actually a well balanced post. I thought I was taking crazy pills when people were comparing S.F Downtown to Oakland Downtown.
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Unless you live in that area why the hell would anyone want to besides the In-n-Out in that trash filled Wal Mart parking lot? I worked in that area for a little bit and I go to A LOT of Warriors and A's games and never once have I heard someone suggest stepping foot anywhere outside of BART or the Coliseum/Arena parking lot except for In-n-Out.
Exactly expect's point. The area near the coliseum is zoned primarily for industrial businesses. There's a freaking metal foundry right off Hegenberger! I may not be an expert on hegenberger like Nineties Flava claims to be, but I've seen the area enough near the coliseum to know it's not some vibrant, swanky area where Warriors fans are going to hang out before or after the game.
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