05-22-2012, 01:33 PM
Location: SF Bay Area
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What's wrong with Detroit? The bias supporters will tell you that Detroit is an up and coming city with plenty of artsy things to do, and has many options for dive bars and restaurants. It's a vibrant city full of life and potentials. It gets a bad reputation from the media. Sounds familiar eh?
05-22-2012, 01:35 PM
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detroit has a better baseball team and football team. and a better basketball team.
05-22-2012, 01:37 PM
Location: San Jose, CA
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jsba
Yep thats my point Doc, oakland is trying to be something its not and isnt focusing on what its good at. The city has a unique ability but simply ignores it to try and be more glamors so to speak. Oakland actually has the infrastructure to be an industrial mecca with a world class port by all measures, good transportation access, and close enough to major financing and skilled workforce. Its like city leaders dont want to do this cuz its not sexy. the bay area already has a hot girl, and a smart girl, we need one that can actually do work now.
Problem is, nothing is made in USA anymore. Unless a bunch of people want to work for $2.00/day and no benefits.
05-22-2012, 01:48 PM
Location: Lafayette, CA
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detroit has a better baseball team and football team. And a better basketball team.
05-22-2012, 01:58 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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dragontales
What's wrong with Detroit? The bias supporters will tell you that Detroit is an up and coming city with plenty of artsy things to do, and has many options for dive bars and restaurants. It's a vibrant city full of life and potentials. It gets a bad reputation from the media. Sounds familiar eh?
Never been to Detroit, but a good friend of mine is. For the people who are from the suburbs of Detroit, it is a lovely place and they never have to venture into the city at all.
For people who grew up in poor areas of Detroit (like my friend), it is a hell hole and there is no need to ever visit.
Bad neighborhoods in Detroit are far worse than bad areas of Oakland since they are completly devoid of investment and resources. It leaves you hopeless and forlorn, and these areas make up much larger pockets of the city. In Oakland those types of areas are few, and not as bad (i.e burning cars and burning buildings nightly). Plenty of the bad neighborhoods in Oakland still feel like communities. They have stores, shops, restaurants, and neighbors that care about each other mixed with bad seeds. There is also quite a bit of new development in east Oakland.
Detroit is also the only metro area for miles around....so there isn't a "center" of industry that is doing well in the metro area. Oakland is one of the main cities in a thriving metro area, so it has a lot more access to capital, development and key influencers. Even if they are in other nearby cities.
Detroit is quite literally more divided into haves and have nots. And the have nots are more like have nothings, not have a littles.
What Oakland and Detroit have in common: in tact historical architecture downtown, burgeoning trendy downtown scenes, new development and investment in their urban cores, and a rash of young people (entrepreneurs, non-profit workers, job creators, young professionals) excited and focused on improving the city.
05-22-2012, 01:59 PM
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I cant wait to see how yuppy and pretentious this new crowd at the new arena will be, but they got money so here comes Staples Center North minus a good team.
05-22-2012, 02:00 PM
Location: San Jose, CA
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detroit has a better baseball team and football team. and a better basketball team.
Tigers: Good
Lions: OK
Pistons: Suck donkeys
05-22-2012, 02:01 PM
Location: Lafayette, CA
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Never been to Detroit, but a good friend of mine is.
But you've never been to Detroit?
Hmm, interesting. Isn't this the angle that a lot of Oaklanders claim about "outsiders" with regards to Oakland so disdainfully, and why their opinions don't count? Because they don't even live in Oakland, yet have an opinion on the city. Seems like a double standard, but continue talking and making judgements about a city you've never been to based solely on third party opinion.
05-22-2012, 02:01 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Problem is, nothing is made in USA anymore. Unless a bunch of people want to work for $2.00/day and no benefits.
Yes and no. There is a big movement to producing things in the US. ANd many of the so-called artisan products can be made in the US while still maintaining profit margins.
Oakland has been capitalizing on this by courting the food businesses (Hodo Soy, Revolution Food, Blue Bottle Coffee, Numi Tea).
05-22-2012, 02:03 PM
Location: Lafayette, CA
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I cant wait to see how yuppy and pretentious this new crowd at the new arena will be, but they got money so here comes Staples Center North minus a good team.
because the team isn't in Oakland, the "new crowd" is going to be only yuppies and pretentious rich people?
Wow, the Oakland boosters club is out in full force.
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