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Old 07-10-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: In them thar hills
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True. But should the focus be on parking as if being able to park is a right? Or should the focus be on the current and near and distant future transportation needs of the corridor?
And what pray tell will those needs really be in, say, 2030?

Look at demographics.

Demand may actually go down by then.

Furthermore, even with Mid Market Dot Bomb 2.0 hype, who will really be commuting from the Outer Lands to downtown in 2030, as opposed to a multitude of places around the region?
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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So say the proposal they go with doesn't eliminate any parking or even adds parking, and they don't run all the buses in the BRT right-of-way. What are your reasons for being against the BRT going to be then?

Some of you act like this BRT project isn't considering any of these concerns being brought up. Judging by some of the responses it doesn't even appear some of year even looked at the project website.
So say the sky turns piink and it rains Root Beer, whoever began this thread was soliciting opinions
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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So say the sky turns piink and it rains Root Beer, whoever began this thread was soliciting opinions
And your point? Clearly the OP got some opinions by some people that know little to nothing about BRT and this project. He even posted a link but clearly some of you didn't bother to look at the project site.

Now that some of you, you in particular, are a bit more informed about the project I'm soliciting opinions on what you think of the project if some of the main concerns were addressed. But since you rarely back up your BS I'm not surprised by your lack of response.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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And your point? Clearly the OP got some opinions by some people that know little to nothing about BRT and this project. He even posted a link but clearly some of you didn't bother to look at the project site.

Now that some of you, you in particular, are a bit more informed about the project I'm soliciting opinions on what you think of the project if some of the main concerns were addressed. But since you rarely back up your BS I'm not surprised by your lack of response.
Perhaps we should put you in charge of who gets to have an opinion, or who is qualified to have an opinion.
Having lived within a block of Geary for over a decade I feel qualified.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:24 PM
 
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Perhaps we should put you in charge of who gets to have an opinion, or who is qualified to have an opinion.
Having lived within a block of Geary for over a decade I feel qualified.
Don't take this personally, as I'm speaking in general. In every thread there are individuals who feel qualified for whatever reason to offer an opinion, even if he or she doesn't have any familiarity with the topic at hand. It's the difference between an informed and uninformed opinion, and the latter doesn't help further the conversation.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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And what pray tell will those needs really be in, say, 2030?

Look at demographics.

Demand may actually go down by then.

Furthermore, even with Mid Market Dot Bomb 2.0 hype, who will really be commuting from the Outer Lands to downtown in 2030, as opposed to a multitude of places around the region?
What demographic trends are you referring to, specifically? I'd like to read whatever report you are using.
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Perhaps we should put you in charge of who gets to have an opinion, or who is qualified to have an opinion.
Having lived within a block of Geary for over a decade I feel qualified.
What are you talking about? Everyone is entitled to an opinion but some aren't as informed on certain topics like this, you really didn't seem to know much about BRT or this project at all. Also how long ago did you off of Geary? 20 years ago?

So after pointing out how this project is addressing the exact concerns people like you have brought up, which if they actually went to the project site they would have realized that, I wanted to know what people like yourself thought of the project after actually having learned more about it. That is the whole point of the public input process for projects like this, to inform the public of what they are doing, address concerns, and mitigate conflicts. Many times those that were initially against a project turn around and support after learning more about it.

But again instead of actually discussing the project after the concerns you brought up have been addressed you just get all stubborn and defensive and make snide remarks. Like always, you don't actually provide any sort of reasoning or discussion behind anything you say.

If they run local buses seperately and no parking is lost, why would you still be against the BRT?
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