Why doesn't the city just get rid of the homeless people? (San Francisco: house, camper)

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by NYCtoSF

SF has too many homeless people. I don't understand why the city doesn't just direct the cops to continually make their lives so difficult that they're forced to leave. This is what Giuliani did in Manhattan.

These people may be relatively harmless, but they're an eyesore and they add to the filth and degradation of urban environments. Is there no desire within long time residents to rid SF of these people?

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life. ”

[oldtrader]

SF has too many homeless people. I don't understand why the city doesn't just direct the cops to continually make their lives so difficult that they're forced to leave. This is what Giuliani did in Manhattan.

These people may be relatively harmless, but they're an eyesore and they add to the filth and degradation of urban environments. Is there no desire within long time residents to rid SF of these people?

Your solutions seem to be, drove them like rats from the city, or maybe euthanize them as one may do with a sick dog or cat.


As mentioned earlier in this thread, an awful lot of the homeless are mentally ill. Many are veterans who developed DTSD, and are unable to cope with modern stateside life, with flashbacks, and panic attacks. Unable to hold, jobs, and live a normal life.

At one time California had mental hospitals and clinics to help these people, and it was not the problem it is today. The clinics provided medications to help them remain in a more normal life. But a number of year ago, it was not dignified for these people to be in these facilities and they decided they no longer wanted to put out the money to take care of these people and closed the hospitals and the clinics. These people were just pushed out onto the streets. They have no place to go, but to try to survive on the streets.

[ZhugeLiang]

All of those mentally ill people in the good old days would be institutionalized getting the help that they need. This is why you typically didn't see many homeless people on the streets back then.

Then the ACLU came along and helped put an end to the practice of holding schizos against their will. I guess the law decided that allowing them to be a danger to themselves and others while starving and freezing to death on the streets was more humane.

[marilyn220]

Originally Posted by NYCtoSF

SF has too many homeless people. I don't understand why the city doesn't just direct the cops to continually make their lives so difficult that they're forced to leave. This is what Giuliani did in Manhattan.

These people may be relatively harmless, but they're an eyesore and they add to the filth and degradation of urban environments. Is there no desire within long time residents to rid SF of these people?

Why do you still live there?

SF is not Manhattan and never will be no matter how much you wish it was.

Stop romanticizing Giuliani. NYC doesn't want him as Mayor again. They couldn't wait for his term to be over for a REASON.

[quixotic59]

Originally Posted by marilyn220

Why do you still live there?

SF is not Manhattan and never will be no matter how much you wish it was.

Stop romanticizing Giuliani. NYC doesn't want him as Mayor again. They couldn't wait for his term to be over for a REASON.

AMEN to that!!!!!!!!!!

[stuckupnorth]

Too many bleeding heart liberals that defend them. Then they sit in their million dollar houses from on high looking down on the peons. Maybe it gives them a feeling of superiority there in the city? Only when a homeless person actually harms them or someone they love will they cry foul. SF seems to have bigger problems than the homeless. Like residents being murdered by illegal aliens.

[ferretkona]

Originally Posted by NYCtoSF

SF has too many homeless people. I don't understand why the city doesn't just direct the cops to continually make their lives so difficult that they're forced to leave. This is what Giuliani did in Manhattan.

These people may be relatively harmless, but they're an eyesore and they add to the filth and degradation of urban environments. Is there no desire within long time residents to rid SF of these people?

Because we prefer the homeless bums over the transplants from New York.

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by ZhugeLiang

Then the ACLU came along and helped put an end to the practice of holding schizos against their will. I guess the law decided that allowing them to be a danger to themselves and others while starving and freezing to death on the streets was more humane.

At least that was Reagan's convenient excuse for getting rid of the state hospitals.

[Natural510]

A lot of the people we view as homeless aren't; there's homeless and there's street people. Many street people have gotten housing through the city or whatever but hang out on the street all day panhandling, doing drugs, etc.
I doubt San Francisco will ever solve its homeless problem; besides the politics behind it, the weather and reputation of the city will always make it a destination for people around the country to come and live on the streets, especially the free-spirit young people who do it by choice.

[NYCtoSF]

Originally Posted by marilyn220

Why do you still live there?

SF is not Manhattan and never will be no matter how much you wish it was.

Stop romanticizing Giuliani. NYC doesn't want him as Mayor again. They couldn't wait for his term to be over for a REASON.

That's because NYC also has a sizable population of weak, wimpy liberals just like SF.

The strong ones like me recognize and appreciate strength.