Is it just me, or does the black community in SF seem marginalized? (San Francisco: real estate, home)

[marilyn220]

Originally Posted by slumcat

About two years ago we went to SF to visit my daughter, who was working in East Palo Alto on an internship. We spent about one week in SF, which isn't too long, but my impression was that it was very expensive and geared to wealthy white and Asian yuppies. People did not seem very friendly there, either. I am not the camera-toting "touristy" type that people love to hate, when I go to a city I try to be respectful and polite. I asked someone for directions, and he said "I don't know and I don't care." Wow! Thats NYC level rudeness.

NYers aren't THAT rude. Many of us will help you if we have the time and it's not taking us out of our way. We don't disrespect people who do not disrespect us FIRST.

Anyways, the black population in LA and California as a whole is nowhere near as huge as on the east coast and the south. If there was a ton of blacks here at one time, then they're long gone now.

There's still a sizeable amount in Oakland I hear.

[Ultrarunner]

San Francisco and Oakland Black populations have declined... about 6% for SF and 28% of Oakland...

At 6%, the SF population is still slightly higher then the 5.8% Statewide...

[9162]

Originally Posted by sport69

Marginalization of black communities is typical in most blue states. Ignorance, neglect and racism is partly to blame. Other factors include low self esteem self hate jealousy and disunity in the community which is killing the young, black business, and their dreams. Most blacks who live in red states thrive and do well with a higher proportion of them owning homes, business, college degrees good jobs etc.

Red states are usually much cheaper to live in too.

[CyanideThistles]

Originally Posted by marilyn220

NYers aren't THAT rude. Many of us will help you if we have the time and it's not taking us out of our way. We don't disrespect people who do not disrespect us FIRST.

Anyways, the black population in LA and California as a whole is nowhere near as huge as on the east coast and the south. If there was a ton of blacks here at one time, then they're long gone now.

There's still a sizeable amount in Oakland I hear.

When I went on a BART station in Oakland nearly the majority of the people on the train are black. I think that is considered more than sizable.

The city I live in (Santa Rosa) is 2.4% black in 2010, but I still see a lot of black people in certain areas and I am sure they are pretty comfortable with it too and would not care if they are the only black person around. The public schools here do not have many black students but when I am in downtown area I see a lot of black people.

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by 9162

Red states are usually much cheaper to live in too.

I guess that's why there are so few black people in Maryland, New York, Michigan, Illinois, etc.

[jade408]

Originally Posted by CyanideThistles

When I went on a BART station in Oakland nearly the majority of the people on the train are black. I think that is considered more than sizable.

Depends on the BART station. But transit is poor barometer of diversity in pretty much any reason. Transit takes tend to be poorer, and more ethnic than non transit takers in most of the US. Besides NYC.

[CyanideThistles]

Originally Posted by jade408

Depends on the BART station. But transit is poor barometer of diversity in pretty much any reason. Transit takes tend to be poorer, and more ethnic than non transit takers in most of the US. Besides NYC.

That is true. However, at the junior college where I live, I would say 10 to 15% of the people I see walking around the campus during daytime, many of them being Ethiopian/Eritrean people and the rest being African Americans, sometimes in large amounts. It is near a lower income area too. But websites say it's only 3% black. The lower income parts of my town are mostly Hispanic but I still saw a lot of black people there even though the Census says these zip codes are 3% black and less. But there are not many black families where I live, just white/black and black/Hispanic interracial families. I came from an interracial and multicultural family so it's kinda cool for me to see those types of families.

I guess the Census stuff is not always accurate. Almost all the African American people where I live end up marrying non-black and have kids that are only half black. On my block, there are a lot of families like this and it is cool to see the mixture of people. I think it's a good thing that the black people are leaving the ghettos and impoverished areas to suburban type areas like Santa Rosa or wherever else, because it's a better place for them to live. Most black people I know much rather live in a very white safe place (like parts of Santa Rosa, Walnut Creek, the nice parts of SF, parts of San Jose) than a ghetto black place, and that's why they chose to live in a predominately non-black town. So I don't think it's a bad thing the cities are losing black population.

[marilyn220]

Originally Posted by CyanideThistles

When I went on a BART station in Oakland nearly the majority of the people on the train are black. I think that is considered more than sizable.

The city I live in (Santa Rosa) is 2.4% black in 2010, but I still see a lot of black people in certain areas and I am sure they are pretty comfortable with it too and would not care if they are the only black person around. The public schools here do not have many black students but when I am in downtown area I see a lot of black people.

It depends on what YOU consider "sizeable". I'm black and I'm coming from a city where blacks are seen ALL THE TIME EVERYWHERE not just a handful every 20 miles or so. Oakland has been a traditionally black segregated area like Harlem, Compton and Inglewood are.

So, yeah, you will see more than the average in OAKLAND compared to the rest of the city. I bet there aren't huge numbers in Mountain View, Palo Alto and other parts of San Francisco, just like there aren't a huge influx of them here in LA. Only in certain pockets of the city are they concentrated.

[CyanideThistles]

Originally Posted by marilyn220

It depends on what YOU consider "sizeable". I'm black and I'm coming from a city where blacks are seen ALL THE TIME EVERYWHERE not just a handful every 20 miles or so. Oakland has been a traditionally black segregated area like Harlem, Compton and Inglewood are.

So, yeah, you will see more than the average in OAKLAND compared to the rest of the city. I bet there aren't huge numbers in Mountain View, Palo Alto and other parts of San Francisco, just like there aren't a huge influx of them here in LA. Only in certain pockets of the city are they concentrated.

Yeah I know what you mean. I guess because I went to a public elementary school where there only a few black people, it's more unique in a way to see quite a few black people in one place. There's one high school near where I live that has about 1,000 students now, and only 50 of the students at that school are black. People refer to that school as "the school with a lot of black people" or "there's a lot of black people there" because to them, that's a lot, lol.

[marilyn220]

Originally Posted by CyanideThistles

Yeah I know what you mean. I guess because I went to a public elementary school where there only a few black people, it's more unique in a way to see quite a few black people in one place. There's one high school near where I live that has about 1,000 students now, and only 50 of the students at that school are black. People refer to that school as "the school with a lot of black people" or "there's a lot of black people there" because to them, that's a lot, lol.

Yeah, that is funny! LOL!