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Old 10-19-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Yep, so did I, and it was exactly as you described. Annoying at first but we eventually got used to it.

Now if we only had public transportation that was up to European standards...
If only we (and, in my case, "we" means San Francisco and Alameda county) had public transport up to NYC standards.

The bag charge doesn't bother me at all. Usually, I don't need a bag or bring my own but if I forget, I don't have a problem coughing up 10 cents.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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I'm LOL at the fact you waste gas driving further to save 10 cents.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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I'm not thrilled to pay more for anything, ever, but the stores have to BUY these bags and it does cost them $ so when I think about it like that I'm less annoyed.
Trust me, you were paying for the bags in the past. Those costs would hit the store's overhead account that gets applied as a percentage to every item they sell when they price the items. Nothing's free.

Ironically, I used to use paper bags I got from grocery stores as my receptacles for recyclables. Now I have to go and buy an extra plastic trashcan to use since I no longer have the paper bag option.

In practice, I can't say this particular law has inconvenienced me in a major way. In principle though, I worry how far the City may eventually take these types of laws. I wouldn't put much past the activist progressive types that run the City.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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No. This shouldn't make ANYONE "angry"

inconvenienced, sure. irritated,maybe slightly. But angry?

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Old 10-19-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Its not so much the extra cost or hassal. But the simple fact we have a nanny government saying we have too. That is making people like me mad as hell. Its one thing to have an anti-litter law. Which would also clean up the mess. (I think a $200 fine for throwing a bag or other litter would be more of a deterrent than forcing everyone to pay an extra ten cents per bag.) Its another thing to force everyone to pay ten cents or carry extra bags with them.
That was well said. Plus, in the list of things that need attention the imagined scourge of paper bags seems to be least of our problems. You'd think there were great drifts of discarded bags swallowing up neighborhoods. (I always use paper bags for recycling and place them in my recycling container, which is probably the most common use for paper bags post-shopping.) I suspect that the real impetus for this law is the nanny-state mentality that the sheeple need to be led around by their noses because they don't know what's best for them.

It's interesting that do-gooders lament the loss of local businesses (remember when there used to be bookstores?), and then turn around and make it harder for people to patronize them, thereby driving away customers.
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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I suspect that the real impetus for this law is the nanny-state mentality that the sheeple need to be led around by their noses because they don't know what's best for them.
If more people would be responsible enough to quit trashing their environment and destroying natural ecosystems, maybe these laws wouldn't be necessary.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: South Korea
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Blah blah nanny state socialism black helicopters sheeple. If I want to crap where I eat like a child who doesn't know any better, who are you to treat me like a child?
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:11 PM
 
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If more people would be responsible enough to quit trashing their environment and destroying natural ecosystems, maybe these laws wouldn't be necessary.
"If more people would be responsible enough to quit eating thrash and destroying their health,maybe these laws wouldn't be necessary. "

This is the type of dangerous thinking that could eventualy lead to bans on ice cream,bacon,potato chips and soda,all of which are much more harmful to human health than plastic bags.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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If more people would be responsible enough to quit trashing their environment and destroying natural ecosystems, maybe these laws wouldn't be necessary.
Paper bags are destroying the natural ecosystem? LOL.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Minneeeesoootah
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It's really a "non-issue" for me, sorry to say. I lived in Europe for a few years and this is the way it's done- so I just got very used to carrying my reusable bags in the car with me (I've got tons of them so I always have a few with me in the trunk).

Even more shocking (for some of you) is that I mostly even bag my own groceries. In Europe, this is the way it's done. You also need to "pay" for your shopping cart too! You put a euro into the cart to unlock it. You really learn to slow down and live int he moment! If you want your euro back, then you bring it back to the "trolley bay" to get your euro back.

The cashiers sit down (they don't stand), and ring up your stuff and that's it. Sometimes they'll help you bag your stuff to move you along faster or if you're elderly or dealing with kids, but you generally do it yourself like in Food 4'less or similar. I guess I'm just accustomed to it nowadays so I tend to not just stand there wasting time while the line behind me backs up.

I don't think it's an issue because I'm accustomed to it, see how the roads, waterways, and landfills aren't clogged or polluted with these bags anymore (and it used to be a horrible problem where I lived), and I like getting a little added exercise to get myself out of the store a lot faster...move the line along.

I know we're not in Europe, but these kinds of things just become the norm and aren't the big deal that we make of them after a while. Change is hard but it does cause you to live in the moment a little more.
We have grocery stores in MN like this too.
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