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Old 12-03-2012, 04:27 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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After re-reading some of the responses in this thread, it's painfully clear that some people, for whatever reason, simply WANT Oakland to fail and have the crime problems it has. I really don't get it. It's almost as if these people get some weird sense of pleasure whenever another tragedy happens and they get the opportunity to run to this forum and post about it. I'd almost feel sorry for these people if I weren't so disgusted.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:50 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Unfortunately in the US, the undercurrent of race flows through almost everything. You can look at the responses to Hurricane Sandy and Hurricane Katrina if you aren't really sure. Or even Hurricane Andrew.

In my personal experience, areas perceived as "black" are the last to reap the benefits of economic development no matter what the true circumstances are.

We have a long way to go to defeat institutional racism.

Although people try to compare Oakland to other places, the fact remains it is quite different in many ways. Oakland is mixed and multi-cultural in ways most cities are not. People generally live side by side, no mater their ethnicity. And most problems of "class" affect all the groups equally. Like most of the US, the gap between the Haves and the Have Nots is pretty wide, but in Oakland it doesn't get swept under the rug like in so many other places.

There is an old adage, that the media only focuses on the negative, so people are under the mistaken impression the average Oakland resident isn't working to impact change. Most Oaklanders I know are pretty involved in one way or another, and that is part of the reason they came to Oakland in the first place. But outside of Thanksgiving, when does the media cover community service? How often do you hear about the kid who succeeded, despite a rocky road? Or the schools that has made headway, against all odds. Those aren't the stories that garner clicks, so the coverage is pretty minimal.
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:51 PM
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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ssmaster, you make a good point, but while there are many residents who continually go out of their way to dispel the myths about Oakland, there are just as many who prefer to keep the growth organic (as described by the Uptown scene above). This helps keep the town at least semi-affordable for those who want to live there, while the bad press helps keep the rents from pricing out those who most keep the creativity and diversity (for lack of a better word) going in Oakland (like it has in Berkeley & SF).
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:45 PM
Location: San Jose, CA
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Originally Posted by ssmaster View Post

"What Middleton ultimately realized was that Uptown was being fueled by a crowd coming in from other neighborhoods who simply wanted to patron the city’s bars and restaurants. Those are the types of people who could be convinced to live there, if they had solid apartment options. “While the news was casting a pretty dim light on this area, a lot of people were out having fun and going to these new clubs,” Middleton says. “It didn’t come across as a threatening environment.”

so his company invested in the area.
People who do their homework discover reality and act on the opportunities it presents. Lazy people believe whatever BS the mass media and the rumor mill throws at them. Discussing Oakland always seems to reinforce this.
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