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Old 12-02-2012, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Man with a tan hat
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Default Tell me again why the Tenderloin is bad...

I will preface this by saying I was born and raised in the Bronx and currently spend most of my time between SoCal and New Orleans for work. I was recently on a film shoot in SF and everyone and their mother was telling me the Tenderloin was a "bad" part of town. Honestly, it seemed a little more down market than some of the surrounding neighborhoods, but "bad" it just wasn't-- especially with my frames of reference as stated. Is this really a problem area or is it just one by comparison to the rest of SF?
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, CA
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There is a lot of drug trade in the area, but for the most part I've never felt unsafe in the area compared to West Oakland. Tenderloin is also full of homeless, not exactly dangerous, but you will find feces on the ground, and when it rains... ugh... smells like urine.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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It sounds like you picked the wrong block. The right block feels OK. But if you pick the wrong one it is an open air drug market. Or more. You have to look out for confrontations with mentally unstable people homeless or not.

But to be honest, the "social services" are concentrated there. So every day walking home would be like walking through Dante's inferno -- you'll see the full range of despair on the streets. I find it depressing and sketchy at the same time.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:41 PM
 
Location: West Coast Wanderer
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The Tenderloin is a bad area that isn't bad if you just visit. Living there is a different experience. There's the drug thing, some prostitution and property crime, mostly car break ins. And yes there are crazy people there too.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Why is West Oakland being brought up in this thread?

The tenderloin is definitely less safe than West Oakland. It's right in the middle of SF near a lot of touristy areas and it makes it easy for criminals to prey upon clueless tourists. It happens all the time.

Tourists in Oakland don't just stumble upon the dangerous parts of West Oakland while they're on their way to a show or ethnic restaurant, simply because it's a residential district part of the city. Most victims of violent crime in West Oakland know eachother. Totally different types of crime going on...
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:32 PM
 
Location: AK, CA, FL, WA, AUS
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I will preface this by saying I was born and raised in the Bronx and currently spend most of my time between SoCal and New Orleans for work. I was recently on a film shoot in SF and everyone and their mother was telling me the Tenderloin was a "bad" part of town. Honestly, it seemed a little more down market than some of the surrounding neighborhoods, but "bad" it just wasn't-- especially with my frames of reference as stated. Is this really a problem area or is it just one by comparison to the rest of SF?
Tenderloin is just stinky, dirty, and gritty. There are a lot of good and cheap ethnic restaurants, which is why I go to the Loin maybe once a week on average. I never feel unsafe, it just looks and smells gross. There are too many homeless people, drunks and drug addicts. However, they are usually passed out or sitting down talking to each other, so I've never had any bad encounters. Some parts of Tenderloin are better than others too. I have a couple friends that live there and they like it because they are a short walk to Union Square. I wouldn't mind living there if the building had a parking garage. I always worry when I park my car on the street there.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Ohio; originally Oakland, CA
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Why is West Oakland being brought up in this thread?

The tenderloin is definitely less safe than West Oakland. It's right in the middle of SF near a lot of touristy areas and it makes it easy for criminals to prey upon clueless tourists. It happens all the time.

Tourists in Oakland don't just stumble upon the dangerous parts of West Oakland while they're on their way to a show or ethnic restaurant, simply because it's a residential district part of the city. Most victims of violent crime in West Oakland know eachother. Totally different types of crime going on...
Some people just can't help themselves. West Oakland is a residential area with families while the Tenderloin is filled with drug addicts and residential hotels.
To the OP, it's mainly shady by SF standards and the fact it's next to downtown and other central locations while the rest of the more crime-ridden neighborhoods are on the outskirts of the city. It's got a skid row vibe, but it's definitely not the worst hood in SF.

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Old 12-02-2012, 09:52 PM
 
Location: South Korea
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I used to never really think the TL was all that bad. I'd skirt through areas on the outskirts near Union Square, on Polk, on Market, and it never looked that bad. There's some decent bars and Thai places there, and compared to the Mission parts of it aren't as bad. Plus the apartment exterior architecture there is often stunning, maybe the best in the city.

Around 2007 I was having a tough time finding an apartment and decided to consider places in the TL. I went to a viewing for a place right around the corner from the Hilton. When I got there, there were literally at least 200 homeless guys lounging around all up and down the block. Just on one block. I took a look at the place just out of curiosity, and got the hell out of there. So, it depends on what block you're on, but some blocks are really ****ed up.
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Old 12-02-2012, 09:57 PM
 
Location: AK, CA, FL, WA, AUS
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I used to never really think the TL was all that bad. I'd skirt through areas on the outskirts near Union Square, on Polk, on Market, and it never looked that bad. There's some decent bars and Thai places there, and compared to the Mission parts of it aren't as bad. Plus the apartment exterior architecture there is often stunning, maybe the best in the city.

Around 2007 I was having a tough time finding an apartment and decided to consider places in the TL. I went to a viewing for a place right around the corner from the Hilton. When I got there, there were literally at least 200 homeless guys lounging around all up and down the block. Just on one block. I took a look at the place just out of curiosity, and got the hell out of there. So, it depends on what block you're on, but some blocks are really ****ed up.
Very true!
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Old 12-02-2012, 10:14 PM
 
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The city has wound up concentrating social services for groups such as the mentally ill and substance abusers (as well as just plain homeless) in the Tenderloin because other neighborhoods have had the political power to fight them off.

Mayorhaggar, I'm pretty sure you saw folks waiting to go to Glide Memorial Church, which has made serving the poor and homeless its mission.
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