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Old 01-21-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, CA
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Wow. So this guy gets a prostitute, so he deserves to get killed by Oakland gang members?

 
Old 01-21-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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Wow. So this guy gets a prostitute, so he deserves to get killed by Oakland gang members?

i was refuting your point that gang violence intersects the lives of law abiding citizens. this was not an example of that

----gangs
HOs___ drugs
----pimps



it's like the circle of life

to think you can be involved in illicit activity like drugs or HOs and not run into hardcore criminals at some point is stupid
 
Old 01-21-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Wow. So this guy gets a prostitute, so he deserves to get killed by Oakland gang members?
Risky behaviors increase your risk of being a victim of a crime. As does engaging in illegal activities.

Obviously, this isn't the case in every crime, but there are reasonable precautions you can take if they are available to you. For example, avoiding street prostitutes could be a good place to start.

Generally speaking, members of gangs, mobsters, participants in organized crimes, and smaller groups (turfs) tend to deal with a few sets of illicit activities: drugs, prostitution and weapons. This is true in the "inner city," "sin city," and "Atlantic City."
 
Old 01-22-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Risky behaviors increase your risk of being a victim of a crime. As does engaging in illegal activities.
Basically. None of this should come as a surprise to anyone.

When you commit a crime with a criminal, chances are they have friends.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Ever since I heard of the Kumra case something seemed odd about it. It was apparent from the beginning that there was more to this than "innocent successful rich guy gets killed by big bad black people".

This news article from earlier this month touches on "shady business dealings and a sham divorce" he was involved in, among other things.

Details surface about victim in Monte Sereno home-invasion... | www.ktvu.com

Although I guess some people will insist that he was a saint simply because he's one of the rare Bay Area homicide victims that's not a low income black or brown youth. Had he been a black kid in East Oakland no one would have even heard about this case, sorta like how no one heard about the young latina woman who was murdered in East Oakland the same day that the two white girls were killed...
 
Old 01-23-2013, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Oakland CA
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I read somewhere that his business partner essentially said this couldn't have happened to a better guy. When a business partner, with whom you've made boatloads of money says that -- you must be a piece of work.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, CA
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I read somewhere that his business partner essentially said this couldn't have happened to a better guy. When a business partner, with whom you've made boatloads of money says that -- you must be a piece of work.
Wow. That's some venom.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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I read somewhere that his business partner essentially said this couldn't have happened to a better guy. When a business partner, with whom you've made boatloads of money says that -- you must be a piece of work.

Yeah I recall reading that as well.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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Ever since I heard of the Kumra case something seemed odd about it. It was apparent from the beginning that there was more to this than "innocent successful rich guy gets killed by big bad black people".

This news article from earlier this month touches on "shady business dealings and a sham divorce" he was involved in, among other things.

Details surface about victim in Monte Sereno home-invasion... | www.ktvu.com

Although I guess some people will insist that he was a saint simply because he's one of the rare Bay Area homicide victims that's not a low income black or brown youth. Had he been a black kid in East Oakland no one would have even heard about this case, sorta like how no one heard about the young latina woman who was murdered in East Oakland the same day that the two white girls were killed...
Yeah there was definitely a lot more to this guy. If he was an upstanding philanthropist it would have been splashed all over the news more than it was.
 
Old 01-23-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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no one is justifying his murder.
He literally invited trouble into his life and paid dearly for it. A lesson for all to learn.
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