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Old 01-28-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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Too bad you don't know what you're talking about. 45-60k is PRETAX, considering that CA is a high tax state, the amount that you will take off the top, before you pay for your "crazy" life, is going to be about 1/3. So if the OP is thinking that 50k is what they're going to make, then you will see about 17k of that vanish, before any rent or COL. So the real amount of money OP is going to have to live on is 33K. Yeah, you have to be delusional if you think that you can live anywhere near comfortably in the Bay Area, including THE CITY, on 33K.
You're being ridiculous. People earning 50K DO NOT pay anywhere near 17K in taxes (Yes, I'm including SS, Medicare, State, & Federal).

The OP is NOT considering living comfortably in SF. He's basically going considering living a college student lifestyle, possibly without a car (which is doable if you live & work in the city). I wouldn't want to do it, and I can tell you wouldn't want to, either...but it can be done. He's 25. He'll get tired of it soon enough when he sees the gay scene in SF isn't all it's cracked up to be (especially for those without good income earning potential)...let him experience life and learn for himself.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:58 PM
 
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speaking honestly, it all goes well in SF or bay area or paris france until u hit 30.
its a great place to be young and pretty.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:36 PM
 
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Too bad you don't know what you're talking about. 45-60k is PRETAX, considering that CA is a high tax state, the amount that you will take off the top, before you pay for your "crazy" life, is going to be about 1/3. So if the OP is thinking that 50k is what they're going to make, then you will see about 17k of that vanish, before any rent or COL. So the real amount of money OP is going to have to live on is 33K. Yeah, you have to be delusional if you think that you can live anywhere near comfortably in the Bay Area, including THE CITY, on 33K.
My family has been on both sides of the bay since the 1920's. My family has multiple accountants including myself so I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. Just because YOU aren't able to manage your budget in order to live on 45-60k doesn't mean that others can't make it work.

I know people making less that are perfectly comfortable. People in SF/San Bruno/Millbrae/Burlingame, North Bay, South Bay, East Bay, over the hill in Tracy/Stockton. I don't see how I can know more than a dozen people making it work and you seem to think it's so impossible.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Based on personal experience, I'd like to point out that gay men in SF can be pretty snobby/cliquey, so unless you're making a lot more, a lot of guys won't give you the time of day regardless whether you live in SF or not.

I say start out in the East Bay and see if you even like living in the Bay Area PERIOD and have a comfortable life before fully taking the plunge if you HAVE TO be in the City. That was my initial plan when I moved to Oakland in 2007 and after a while, I just never wanted to swallow the extra cost. I'm happier where I am.

Also, don't forget that the Castro is just a neighborhood- it's not the Mecca that so many people hype it up to be. It's fun to go out every now and then, but you see pretty much the exact same people at the exact same bars all the time. Same deal with SOMA.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:09 PM
 
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My family has been on both sides of the bay since the 1920's. My family has multiple accountants including myself so I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. Just because YOU aren't able to manage your budget in order to live on 45-60k doesn't mean that others can't make it work.

I know people making less that are perfectly comfortable. People in SF/San Bruno/Millbrae/Burlingame, North Bay, South Bay, East Bay, over the hill in Tracy/Stockton. I don't see how I can know more than a dozen people making it work and you seem to think it's so impossible.
Uh huh....
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:05 PM
 
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Everyone has been able to provide their own insight and feedback and I appreciate it. mod cut

Thanks again everybody! Let the record have it for people in future years looking at old threads, I still definitely am considering the East Bay. When things are settled I'll update this.

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Old 01-28-2013, 08:14 PM
 
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IF you can find a roommate situation for 900-1200, then you will be fine on the salary you mentioned. There are many available but competition is fierce.

The East Bay is cool, and tolerant for sure, but if you want to do the "gay scene" then it doesn't compare. Like others have said, you could live in SF for awhile then move to the East Bay if you get tired of it.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:48 PM
 
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You're being ridiculous. People earning 50K DO NOT pay anywhere near 17K in taxes (Yes, I'm including SS, Medicare, State, & Federal).

The OP is NOT considering living comfortably in SF. He's basically going considering living a college student lifestyle, possibly without a car (which is doable if you live & work in the city). I wouldn't want to do it, and I can tell you wouldn't want to, either...but it can be done. He's 25. He'll get tired of it soon enough when he sees the gay scene in SF isn't all it's cracked up to be (especially for those without good income earning potential)...let him experience life and learn for himself.
If he wants to learn for himself, then why is he coming onto the board and asking advice? Given that, I'll let the rest of your post speak for itself.....
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