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Old 03-19-2013, 02:15 AM
 
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Hi all,

I am considering buying a small lot / parcel of land in the hills around Orinda, its on a residential street & the land itself is zoned for residential development. The problem is that funds are low right now, I can afford the property but realistically won't be able to build anything which would do the the site justice for about 3-5 years.

Ideally I would like to purchase a small manufactured home, hook it up to public utilities (water / power / sewerage) and live in it, on site until I can build something permanent.

I am still new to CA & the US in general so not sure if this is a realistic plan or not. Just wondering if anyone here has any information / knowledge / experience / thoughts in general about an idea like this?
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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The answer to the manufactured home question is a definite no. Besides that, the thing you have to understand is that Orinda has a lot of extremely steep terrain, and the only reason why land would be affordable in such a desirable location is because it's almost impossible to use. Do you have a realistic estimate of what it will take to get anything built? Do you have to build a road or get services annexed? (They will not do that one plot at a time.) Do you have any experience with building homes in more hospitable terrain? If you have any doubts about this, don't buy the property.

Brentwood, Antioch, and Bethel Island are examples of places where you might have better luck trying to do what you're doing.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:30 PM
 
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What do you mean by a manufactured home? Are you talking about a mobile home, or a modular home? You might be able to pull off putting in a modular home, because they look like custom-built homes. But sonarrat is right; the only lots I've noticed being up for sale are what used to be considered marginal, unbuildable land. Have you been to the parcel you're considering?
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:55 PM
 
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Anything that is used for residential purpose has to meet the local building code standard.

In theory, I suppose it's possible that the manufacture home meets all of the building code requirement of Oridna, and it can be constructed in such a way that it allows the inspectors to inspect each step and sign off. But in practice, I doubt it's practical.

What you should do if you really want to explore this is to study the Orinda building code and compare it to the manufacture home you have in mind.
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Old 03-20-2013, 03:33 AM
 
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I lived in Orinda for 2 years and never saw anything but custom homes being built. I am not a real estate lawyer (or any kind of lawyer) and don't want to advise you that manufactured homes are against code there, but it's a reasonable guess. Orinda is one of the highest-income communities in the Bay Area and in the country.

As far as there being no buildable land, there are plenty of crappy houses for sale that can be torn down, starting around $500K and going up (way up).
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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Hi all,

I am considering buying a small lot / parcel of land in the hills around Orinda, its on a residential street & the land itself is zoned for residential development. The problem is that funds are low right now, I can afford the property but realistically won't be able to build anything which would do the the site justice for about 3-5 years.

Ideally I would like to purchase a small manufactured home, hook it up to public utilities (water / power / sewerage) and live in it, on site until I can build something permanent.

I am still new to CA & the US in general so not sure if this is a realistic plan or not. Just wondering if anyone here has any information / knowledge / experience / thoughts in general about an idea like this?
It doesn't matter what location you pick, go to the source of information, the planning and engineering departments of the county or city and they will explain what you can and can't do. Far better than asking on the Internet and getting answers from those who mostly guess.

Here: http://www.cityoforinda.org/index.as...A3FF5A6DEAA%7D

Just saying, the first sign you shouldn't do something is not knowing how to find the information necessary to do it. It is one thing to ask opinions but this has nothing to do with opinion, the information is published.
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:50 PM
 
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It doesn't matter what location you pick, go to the source of information, the planning and engineering departments of the county or city and they will explain what you can and can't do. Far better than asking on the Internet and getting answers from those who mostly guess.

Here: Planning Department - The City of Orinda*

Just saying, the first sign you shouldn't do something is not knowing how to find the information necessary to do it. It is one thing to ask opinions but this has nothing to do with opinion, the information is published.
Well, I am asking here in case others have done this either in Orinda or the nearby areas. It's one thing to get the info from the city (which obviously is a must-do), but often valuable non-official information can be had by talking with someone who has stood in the trenches so to speak.
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:52 PM
 
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So after much investigation, speaking with lenders, builders, home manufacturers and people in the city - this project is not feasible for me right now, I need at least 40% down to cover the entire cost of the project up front which is close to $200k. Its back to the drawing board.
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:56 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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So after much investigation, speaking with lenders, builders, home manufacturers and people in the city - this project is not feasible for me right now, I need at least 40% down to cover the entire cost of the project up front which is close to $200k. Its back to the drawing board.
I suggest to talk to US Bank, they are one of the few lenders out there that will finance bare dirt. The last time I asked it was 30% down required just for the purchase of the plot. But, since the total outlay of the project is not comfortable for you, it would be best to look at different areas with more hospitable terrain and established services.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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I am considering buying a small lot / parcel of land in the hills around Orinda, its on a residential street & the land itself is zoned for residential development.
irishman_irl,
I wish your option of buying the Orinda lot would've come through for your sake and so that you could share your experience with others.

One of my options is to buy a lot in Orinda and build. From reading, modular homes are a smoother process and save lots of time. Can you share what the city of Orinda had to say about setting up modular homes on slopes? Would modular really save headches with the city?

Appreciate your input...
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