03-26-2013, 03:07 PM
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I agree, service is fairly reliable, but once in a while (I'd say 5-10% of the time, I'll be on the train stuck on the tracks, or waiting for a late train).
My biggest problem is the infrastructure. BART is old, and even with the seat improvements (no more green cushions), and floor improvements, I still think it's amazingly loud compared to many rail systems I've been on.
Also, losing cell phone or 4G connection under the tube is annoying. In Tokyo you can have wifi internet 100 feet underground while on the train. Why not here?
When's the last time you've been on BART? Green seat cushions? The replaced those long time ago with blue ones which are now being phased out with vinyl ones. Maybe there's a car or two left with some green ones but there's no way they would have lasted that long. Mine and everyone around me gets service in the tube. You have to log into WiFi Rail.
03-26-2013, 03:10 PM
Location: Lafayette, CA
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When's the last time you've been on BART? Green seat cushions? The replaced those long time ago with blue ones which are now being phased out with vinyl ones.
I never said they were on now. Did you even read my post? I can't seriously respond to you if you're not even going to read my post.
Also Wifi Rail isn't free. I'm not going to pay $10 a day to use internet that's available for free on other rail systems.
03-26-2013, 04:14 PM
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It wouldn't kill people to not use their gadgets for the 10 minutes the train is in the tube.
And who cares about green cushions? Why the fuss about cushion color?? At least the seats are upholstered, and not hard plastic. I wonder why they're switching to vinyl?
Who approved these high salaries? Is there corruption or bias in whatever agency is overseeing BART? If BART salaries are so out-of-whack compared to industry standards, why isn't the media investigating and reporting on this? And bear in mind that if 47 people are getting salaries at 200,000+, that means 47 people who are going to retire with bloated pensions, while the next generation of managers walks into those 47 high-salaried jobs. So that'll be 94 people to pay an exaggerated monthly income to.
03-26-2013, 04:34 PM
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Well I do know that a Foreworker, while a good mid-level position, should only be making around $70,000-$80,000.
LA MTA only has FIVE positions making over $200,000; , Sr Vice President of Marketing, Sr Vice President Operations, Executive Vice President, and President & Chief Exec Officer.
I just checked Houston's Metro Authority, they only have THREE making over $200,000 (top management I'm guessing).
BART has 47.
What's the COLA difference between Houston and Bay Area, Doc?
03-26-2013, 04:37 PM
Location: Lafayette, CA
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It wouldn't kill people to not use their gadgets for the 10 minutes the train is in the tube.
And who cares about green cushions? Why the fuss about cushion color?? At least the seats are upholstered, and not hard plastic. I wonder why they're switching to vinyl?
When you get on the train any time during the rush home, during the Summer, the entire train smells like ass because of the cushion seats. I prefer the hard plastic to be honest.
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Who approved these high salaries? Is there corruption or bias in whatever agency is overseeing BART? If BART salaries are so out-of-whack compared to industry standards, why isn't the media investigating and reporting on this? And bear in mind that if 47 people are getting salaries at 200,000+, that means 47 people who are going to retire with bloated pensions, while the next generation of managers walks into those 47 high-salaried jobs. So that'll be 94 people to pay an exaggerated monthly income to.
I agree. The pensions that BART is going to pay those 47 people is going to be an anchor on TAX PAYERS. Here's another thing, the average BART employee makes nearly $120,000 a year, so train operators making $118,000 is actually slightly below average.
No wonder Mehserle was so broken down about not being allowed to be a BART cop after murdering Oscar Grant.
BART has been under investigation actually for bloated salaries and general mismanagement. There's actually a website dedicated to BART's wasteful spending:
http://afscme.publishpath.com/
A scary fact: BART executives charged $6.8 million onto their BART company credit cards in 2008. That number grew in 2009. WTF are these people buying on tax payer money that their credit card debt gets that high?
03-26-2013, 04:57 PM
Location: Lafayette, CA
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Senno
What's the COLA difference between Houston and Bay Area, Doc?
The difference between Houston and Bay Area is pretty large. Mostly due to housing cost.
But then how do you explain the huge difference between LA MTA and BART?
Just a cursory comparison shows that when you compare Oakland and L.A:
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Los Angelenos actually suffer more from higher living cost than Oaklanders (again, housing being a big modifier).
A salary of $50,000 in Oakland, California should increase to $53,107 in Los Angeles, California
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Overall 135 144
Food 115 110
Housing 194 235
Utilities 92 115
Transportation 112 112
Health 111 111
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03-26-2013, 05:02 PM
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Doc, not everyone that works for BART lives in Oakland...
03-26-2013, 05:06 PM
Location: SF Bay Area
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It wouldn't kill people to not use their gadgets for the 10 minutes the train is in the tube.
And who cares about green cushions? Why the fuss about cushion color?? At least the seats are upholstered, and not hard plastic. I wonder why they're switching to vinyl?
You don't lose service in the Tube, it's too loud to talk but texting, internet, etc..all still work in the transbay tube so I have no idea what people are talking about losing coverage, maybe they don't actually live here or take BART.
Also there has never been green BART cushions, they were brown and now they are blue. Again, not sure why anyone would think that unless they have never lived here.
Vinyl is easy to keep clean, I like them and try to go in the cars with them.
03-26-2013, 05:21 PM
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You don't lose service in the Tube,..., internet, etc..all still work in the transbay tube so I have no idea what people are talking about losing coverage, maybe they don't actually live here or take BART. Again, not sure why anyone would think that unless they have never lived here.
This is pretty funny. Thx for posting. I think I vaguely recall green cushions, though. But it was a long time ago. I think there are bigger issues to launch a crusade about, than cushion color, though.
03-26-2013, 05:21 PM
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Hey, Doc. I'm feeling you have a little internal inconsistency here. You say you can't recommend that anyone live in Oakland, yet you point out that BART employees should be paid just enough to live in Oakland? What's up with that?
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People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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And who cares about green cushions? Why the fuss about cushion color?? At least the seats are upholstered, and not hard plastic. I wonder why they're switching to vinyl?
