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Old 01-14-2014, 01:54 PM
 
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Richmond is really underrated. People assign the same negative stereotypes to Richmond that they do to Oakland, but Richmond doesn't get nearly the credit that Oakland gets for having decent to nice areas.
I don't live in Richmond, I live in San Rafael, but I am in Richmond a few times a week. I can't say that I think its underrated at all. Oakland has many nice areas. In Richmond you have Point Richmond, which has a small town, mom and pop feel to it. But even the crime stats in Point Richmond show that you're several times more likely to be the victim of violent and property crime than the national average.

Crime in Richmond is down dramatically, but the murder rate tends to be higher than in Oakland. And there isn't much there at all. High crime rate, little natural beauty, bad pollution, poor shopping and dining options(Most places in Point Richmond are simply fair)- I don't see how Richmond is underrated. I prefer Oakland far more.
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Old 01-14-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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I don't live in Richmond, I live in San Rafael, but I am in Richmond a few times a week. I can't say that I think its underrated at all. Oakland has many nice areas. In Richmond you have Point Richmond, which has a small town, mom and pop feel to it. But even the crime stats in Point Richmond show that you're several times more likely to be the victim of violent and property crime than the national average.

Crime in Richmond is down dramatically, but the murder rate tends to be higher than in Oakland. And there isn't much there at all. High crime rate, little natural beauty, bad pollution, poor shopping and dining options(Most places in Point Richmond are simply fair)- I don't see how Richmond is underrated. I prefer Oakland far more.
Well as far as amenities you have a point.

But I dont see anything necessarily bad about the entire area of Richmond along Macdonald and Barrett all from 80 all the way to the civic center.

I just dont see the horribleness everyone is talking about.
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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I've never been a believer that most criminals resort to crime because they can't find work. Most criminals simply lack morales and work ethic.
Agree. The bad economy is just a good excuse. I guess it makes people feel better about their crime.
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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Default Where would you live if you were working in Palo Alto?

We are moving from Texas to work in Palo Alto. We have no clue how it is over there but we have learned that it is a lot more expensive than over here

What towns ar good to live in and safe. We do not have kids in school so that is not an issue.
We care about the commute and safety is a big thing.
We like to have a small garden for our dog so an apartment is not an option.

I appriciate your comments.
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Old 01-15-2014, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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We are moving from Texas to work in Palo Alto. We have no clue how it is over there but we have learned that it is a lot more expensive than over here

What towns ar good to live in and safe. We do not have kids in school so that is not an issue.
We care about the commute and safety is a big thing.
We like to have a small garden for our dog so an apartment is not an option.

I appriciate your comments.
Start by figuring out how much you can afford for rent (assuming you want to rent). Figure out how many bedrooms. Then plug those figures into the peninsula section of SF Bay Area Craigslist to see your options. Then, adjust from there.

For instance, doing a search for 2 bedrooms max 2500, dog friendly, nets you this on the peninsula:

SF bay area apts/housing for rent classifieds - craigslist

The closer you can live to your job, the happier you will be. Commuting here is a bear. Just a few miles during peak hours can take forever. Add your commuting budget into your rent budget, and rent closer to work.

I really like Mountain View, pretty, safe, nice downtown. San Mateo is supposed to also be nice, though I am not familiar with that area. You'll have to get feedback from others on the other towns that pop up on that search.

Congrats on the job and welcome to CA!
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Old 01-15-2014, 02:24 AM
 
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The chart is very sobering. Across the board double digit spike in all 3 Bay Area cities. Oakland burglaries have soared by over 40%, San Jose's auto theft rate up a whopping 71% actually surpassing Oakland.

Why are people so desparate if the economy here is booming compared to everywhere except TX?

Big jump in burglary, theft, stolen cars in Bay Area, police report - San Jose Mercury News
The bad guys know there are no guns in the homes.
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Old 01-15-2014, 01:50 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The rise in non violent crime is directly caused because of criminal realignment (ab109) and prison overpopulation. Brown was forced by the courts to reduce the size of the prison population. This was done by reducing sentences and letting out low level offenders. Low level offenders are those that commit non violent property crime. Those criminals have been out back out into the streets, guess what they do, they continue to commit crimes.
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Old 01-15-2014, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Prague
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The rise in non violent crime is directly caused because of criminal realignment (ab109) and prison overpopulation. Brown was forced by the courts to reduce the size of the prison population. This was done by reducing sentences and letting out low level offenders. Low level offenders are those that commit non violent property crime. Those criminals have been out back out into the streets, guess what they do, they continue to commit crimes.
I was just reading this on a different forum. AB 109 was quite controversial, as should be expected for such a topic. People might be focusing too much on those being released early and whether or not they are behind the uptick. Can't ignore the fact that there is now much less of a deterrent against committing these crimes. I think that is probably more responsible than people being released early. AB 109 substantially diminished the deterrent factor.

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Old 01-15-2014, 05:48 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I was just reading this on a different forum. AB 109 was quite controversial, as should be expected for such a topic. People might be focusing too much on those being released early and whether or not they are behind the uptick. Can't ignore the fact that there is now much less of a deterrent against committing these crimes. I think that is probably more responsible than people being released early. AB 109 substantially diminished the deterrent factor.
I work with many in LEO and they are seeing that a lot of these crimes are by repeat offenders who have been released early. Over 10k non violent prisoners have been released, of course property crime has gone up.

Most of the people in prison have done egregious things, it's not like they are releasing people with dui's or pot charges early, it is robbery, car theft, grand larceny, etc.
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