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Old 05-10-2013, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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The chart is very sobering. Across the board double digit spike in all 3 Bay Area cities. Oakland burglaries have soared by over 40%, San Jose's auto theft rate up a whopping 71% actually surpassing Oakland.

Why are people so desparate if the economy here is booming compared to everywhere except TX?

Big jump in burglary, theft, stolen cars in Bay Area, police report - San Jose Mercury News
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:11 AM
 
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I've never been a believer that most criminals resort to crime because they can't find work. Most criminals simply lack morales and work ethic.
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:18 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I'm just glad I've got renter's insurance.
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Old 05-10-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I'm just glad I've got renter's insurance.
Right! I got it after my friend was a victim of a burglary a few years ago.

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I've never been a believer that most criminals resort to crime because they can't find work. Most criminals simply lack morales and work ethic.
I agree about the morals, but work ethic? Not necessarily. Did you see Pain and Gain (hear about the original news story)? Yikes, these guys had a plan and worked hard. They were just greedy.
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Old 05-10-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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Freakanomics. Abortion rates have been declining since about the 80s.
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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The chart is very sobering. Across the board double digit spike in all 3 Bay Area cities. Oakland burglaries have soared by over 40%, San Jose's auto theft rate up a whopping 71% actually surpassing Oakland.

Why are people so desparate if the economy here is booming compared to everywhere except TX?

Big jump in burglary, theft, stolen cars in Bay Area, police report - San Jose Mercury News
Only a few tech people (really, those in a narrow subset of tech) are generally doing well. People in most other sectors are still struggling. Also, during the past 6 years many unemployed gave up looking completely and are now in poverty indefinitely.
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:08 PM
 
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Only a few tech people (really, those in a narrow subset of tech) are generally doing well. People in most other sectors are still struggling. Also, during the past 6 years many unemployed gave up looking completely and are now in poverty indefinitely.
Previously I used to dismiss this claim about the underemployed, but I'm starting to change my mind.
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:30 PM
 
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Previously I used to dismiss this claim about the underemployed, but I'm starting to change my mind.
Underemployment definitely is a factor. Like BayAreaHillbilly said, people in specific fields are doing better than the rest of the country (and, in many cases, much better). Unfortunately, there are definitely many people who aren't doing as well, and are definitely underemployed comparatively. They might be employed, but often times the pay doesn't match up with the tech-money-fueled cost-of-living increases.

Most macro statistics miss this, especially since averages are usually given...and averages can easily be swayed by large numbers at the top, masking the amount of people that are struggling in the middle/at the bottom.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:55 PM
 
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Right! I got it after my friend was a victim of a burglary a few years ago.



I agree about the morals, but work ethic? Not necessarily. Did you see Pain and Gain (hear about the original news story)? Yikes, these guys had a plan and worked hard. They were just greedy.
I have heard similar information. Some years ago I was a chaperone on a camping trip sponsered by my sons school/church. One of the other fathers had a girl in the school and was along as a chaperone as well. He had recently been transfered to the west coast by his job.

He was from back east, actually the NE in the NJ/NY area and worked for the Treasury Department. His specialty was white collar crime involving organized crime. He worked as essentaily as a forensic accountant building cases by following the money. He made similar observations.

The bottom line was that if some of the guys that he helped build cases against worked as hard in legitimate occupations as they did in their criminal schemes they would be successfull business men. Its just that they couldn't seem to stay from the lifestyle and the easy money. I guess it was poor impulse control and an amoral outlook.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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Yes, interesting. But fits right in with the incredible rise in general crimes against humanity, doesn't it? You know:

investment bankers creating cleverly toxic financial derivatives to foist on the public

lobbyists buying politicians' votes

unjustified wars killing and maiming tens of thousands

pharmaceutical corporations ever developing and marketing more and more aggressive drugs to "treat" conditions that didn't exist until they named them

giant agri-business seizing control of the world's food supply by patenting designer crops

and agri-business poisoning us all with their pesticides, fertilizers, and additives

giant food corporations researching and developing beverages and foods that are destructively addictive

energy corporations selling the consumers on geegaws and gimcracks that require more and more power

entertainment venues sucking our minds and souls dry of any sense of decency and morality

I can go on.

Property crimes .... phbbbbbbt.
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