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Old 09-27-2013, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Why squabble people, we're all the same area.

San Jose, San Francisco square off for Silicon Valley innovation bragging rights - Silicon Valley Business Journal
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: surrounded by reality
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In my humble opinion neither is or should try to be the "Innovation Capital of SV". If anything, this title is Palo Alto's.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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We got more geeks. Case closed!
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Old 09-27-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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In my humble opinion neither is or should try to be the "Innovation Capital of SV". If anything, this title is Palo Alto's.
As one of the biggest rah-rah SJ booster on this forum, I cannot disagree with this quote.

SF and SJ are the bookends to this great economic engine, whose heart/brain/intestines is actually Palo Alto.
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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San Francisco wins due to vibrant urban center which San Jose doesn't have and is lacking. Young generations like being in active and creative urban center, San Jose will cede tech rein to San Francisco.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:07 PM
 
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San Francisco wins due to vibrant urban center which San Jose doesn't have and is lacking. Young generations like being in active and creative urban center, San Jose will cede tech rein to San Francisco.
You sure do seem obsessed with vibrant urban centers...

Regardless, tech, at the end of the day, is technology, not twitter or facebook, so... Santa Clara wins!
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I think the whole battle for capitol of SV is silly. I get it that as humans we need to always designate a capitol/poster child for something, and cities are interested in having their city take that title for obvious reasons. But at the end of the day, any black and white designation as to which is the capitol of Silicon Valley would be like calling everyone who has a computer related job a software engineer.

The tech industry, as it grows, will continue to expand while diversifying and specializing into smaller sub-branches. As I see it, the peninsula has long dominated more of the hardware/silicon chips part of computer technology. As social, mobile and gaming media grows, SF seems to specialize more in that. SF is hot right now in the tech world and has a lot of start up activity, because social and mobile media are growing industries with money making opportunities right now. Social/mobile media tends to not need as much square footage for their companies as the old hardware companies so not being on a sprawling corporate campus is okay. Also, the new starts in social/mobile media also seem to rely on trendiness, better artistic design, word of mouth marketing, and social cachet. Something that SF is more culturally positioned to provide than the suburbs of the peninsula. Plus, the Millenials which are starting these companies, mostly prefer to live in an urban environment. In the old days, more of the money was in hardware and mobile media didn't even yet exist. But the tech culture in SF would not be possible without what came before it on the peninsula.

Silicon Valley has to evolve and a lot of people have been saying it isn't as innovative as it once was. That may be true. But one way you can see SV evolving is that shift to SF.

Once SF matures as a tech hub, what is next? The way I see it, the tech industry continues to grow because it is a future industry. So it gobbles up cities as it goes along. So it started down on the peninsula, and expanded its way north to SF. Will Oakland and the East Bay be the next frontier for the next generation of tech companies? Hard to imagine, right? Well, I think if you go back far enough in history, people wouldn't have guessed SF to become a hot tech hub! But now SF is the geographic place to support the new wave of tech companies. So maybe one day in the future, Oakland and the East Bay will be a hub for another wave of tech!

But what do I know... I don't even work in tech. Haha.
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:23 AM
 
Location: South Korea
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Which city wants to get screwed over harder when the good times bubble inevitably bursts?
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:49 PM
 
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You sure do seem obsessed with vibrant urban centers...

Regardless, tech, at the end of the day, is technology, not twitter or facebook, so... Santa Clara wins!
I'm not, but these young and creative high tech workers are. San Francisco wins in this regard.
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Old 11-24-2013, 11:35 PM
 
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I vote for San Leandro, because it is in the middle between SJ and SF .
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