12-20-2013, 04:54 PM
Location: California
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Tech buses blocked, vandalized in protests - SFGate Blog
Ok, this is getting absurd. San Francisco is becoming a city where you are welcome if you are on drugs, have no income, no intention to work and just want to chill. But if you are working hard, paying taxes and keeping to yourself, you are vilified. Seriously, when did it become bad to be successful?
The vast majority of the homeless AND these protesters are not local, either. But no one is against them. In fact, they are being welcome. But professionals, who cause no harm to anyone and just want to work hard and make a life here are being assaulted.
This is just so insane. And Tom Amiano is the favorite to become the next mayor. Seriously, WHAT is happening to this city?
If Tech leaves, a lot of the service jobs that are supported by it, would leave, too.
And what industry is exactly welcome in San Francisco? Construction isn't. NIMBYs complain. Tour buses? NIMBYs complain. Manufacturing? Hell naw. Wall St? HEEEEEL NAW.
So what kind of professionals are exactly welcome in San Francisco? I guess these "progressives" won't rest until San Francisco looks like the bad parts of its across-the-bay cousin. Then it would be truly affordable.
12-20-2013, 05:02 PM
Location: Newport Coast, California
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Tech buses blocked, vandalized in protests - SFGate Blog
Ok, this is getting absurd. San Francisco is becoming a city where you are welcome if you are on drugs, have no income, no intention to work and just want to chill. But if you are working hard, paying taxes and keeping to yourself, you are vilified. Seriously, when did it become bad to be successful?
The vast majority of the homeless AND these protesters are not local, either. But no one is against them. In fact, they are being welcome. But professionals, who cause no harm to anyone and just want to work hard and make a life here are being assaulted.
This is just so insane. And Tom Amiano is the favorite to become the next mayor. Seriously, WHAT is happening to this city?
If Tech leaves, a lot of the service jobs that are supported by it, would leave, too.
And what industry is exactly welcome in San Francisco? Construction isn't. NIMBYs complain. Tour buses? NIMBYs complain. Manufacturing? Hell naw. Wall St? HEEEEEL NAW.
So what kind of professionals are exactly welcome in San Francisco? I guess these "progressives" won't rest until San Francisco looks like the bad parts of its across-the-bay cousin. Then it would be truly affordable.
It's not the techies business, it is the unbridled arrogance that they are displaying in the city. They are acting like they are better than anyone else and treating others like dirt. That is why there is the protest.
Someone coming in and buying up the land from underneath you, looking down, insulting you, and treading like they are the most important beings on planet earth does nothing to improve a community or society at large. They are simply experiencing the blow-back of their bad behavior.
Old money understands there is an immense social obligation and shameless flaunting of wealth in the face of the less fortunate combined with unbridled arrogance is a recipe for mayhem. Thus you are seeing the reaction in SF.
12-20-2013, 05:15 PM
Location: California
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It's not the techies business, it is the unbridled arrogance that they are displaying in the city. They are acting like they are better than anyone else and treating others like dirt. That is why there is the protest.
Someone coming in and buying up the land from underneath you, looking down, insulting you, and treading like they are the most important beings on planet earth does nothing to improve a community or society at large. They are simply experiencing the blow-back of their bad behavior.
Old money understands there is an immense social obligation and shameless flaunting of wealth in the face of the less fortunate combined with unbridled arrogance is a recipe for mayhem. Thus you are seeing the reaction in SF.
I literally have not spoken to any techie outside my 2 friends. Nor have I seen any techies insulting people, looking down on them etc. Yes, one drunk CEO went on a rant. And...
I am willing to bet you that most techies are completely normal people. Have you ever given them a chance?
12-20-2013, 05:27 PM
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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It's not the techies business, it is the unbridled arrogance that they are displaying in the city. They are acting like they are better than anyone else and treating others like dirt. That is why there is the protest.
Someone coming in and buying up the land from underneath you, looking down, insulting you, and treading like they are the most important beings on planet earth does nothing to improve a community or society at large. They are simply experiencing the blow-back of their bad behavior.
Old money understands there is an immense social obligation and shameless flaunting of wealth in the face of the less fortunate combined with unbridled arrogance is a recipe for mayhem. Thus you are seeing the reaction in SF.
Nice trolling there. I've been in the tech field for 15 years, some of the most down the earth people you'll ever meet.
12-20-2013, 05:30 PM
Location: San Francisco
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They are acting like they are better than anyone else and treating others like dirt.
Oh please. If they ever figured out a way to earn $250,000 a year from interpretive dance, or graffiti "art," or tattooing, or DJing, or selling stuff on Etsy, then you can believe those creatives would be just as insufferable as they claim the techies are now. Probably more, in fact.
12-20-2013, 07:34 PM
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Yep, it's getting quite ridiculous!
First they protest Walmart because of poor wages and benefits.
Now they protest Google because of great wages and benefits.
Next thing you know, they will start rioting when a police officer uses deadly force to stop a wacko waving a gun in the air high on crack.
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I'll work 2-3 more years here to save up some extra cash and wait for my condo's value to go up a bit higher (already up around 60% as of today) and then I'll sell it and move to Florida. I was thinking about keeping it and renting it out, but the social landscape of the Bay Area is starting to worry me. More California businesses are moving to Texas and while most of Texas is hell on Earth (IMO), Austin is one city that is attracting tech and it's very lovely! A nice political mix of people, young people, bars, restaurants, nice homes, nice downtown area, and probably the most friendly people I've met at least in bars. Right now, it's a very small amount of people who simply hate the tech industry in San Francisco. However, if this number grows and tech guys start feeling discriminated against, I can see Google and Apple opening up places in other parts of the country way down the line. We'll see though.
12-20-2013, 10:11 PM
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Yep, it's getting quite ridiculous!
First they protest Walmart because of poor wages and benefits.
Now they protest Google because of great wages and benefits.
Next thing you know, they will start rioting when a police officer uses deadly force to stop a wacko waving a gun in the air high on crack.
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I'll work 2-3 more years here to save up some extra cash and wait for my condo's value to go up a bit higher (already up around 60% as of today) and then I'll sell it and move to Florida. I was thinking about keeping it and renting it out, but the social landscape of the Bay Area is starting to worry me. More California businesses are moving to Texas and while most of Texas is hell on Earth (IMO), Austin is one city that is attracting tech and it's very lovely! A nice political mix of people, young people, bars, restaurants, nice homes, nice downtown area, and probably the most friendly people I've met at least in bars. Right now, it's a very small amount of people who simply hate the tech industry in San Francisco. However, if this number grows and tech guys start feeling discriminated against, I can see Google and Apple opening up places in other parts of the country way down the line. We'll see though.
I hear you. I actually really hope to spend the rest of my life in CA and i LOVE San Francisco. But i was telling my wife that i wouldnt want to buy a house in the city. I think the political climate is toxic and i think there is a lot of pent up hatred towards success. Also, the fact that Amiano is the favorite to be the next mayor straight up scares me.
12-20-2013, 10:19 PM
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Paging Mr. Burris
Google has trampled these people's civil rights.
12-20-2013, 10:25 PM
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No, I seriously doubt anything more than a fraction of those involved "hate success". But this is the inevitable outcome of the Bay Area's self-inflicted housing shortage. Workers have to live somewhere. Mostly, they want to live in San Francisco for the same reasons the protesters live in San Francisco.
12-21-2013, 12:24 AM
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Protesters live in SF mostly for historical or circumstantial reasons; "techies" for the reasons of convenience of urban environment.
San Francisco has never been a cheap city and people were willing to put up with it; now it is becoming overcrowded and too expensive; the offset of extra jobs does not cover the rise in prices because of places like Concord, where many workers I assume live; they actually are who benefit, not the working class of San Francisco. So now, people who lived for long in the city itself are forced to move and pick up the tab of all this hassle; besides, smug and condescending attitude of "techies" adds to it.
Now speaking of "down to Earth" techies - some of them are and some are not; and this often reflected in their choices of the place to live: Fremont, San Jose, Milpitas, Santa Clara - yes, down to Earth; Cupertino, Los Gatos, Mountain View - less so; Palo Alto/Menlo Park - even less. Those who choose San Francisco are mostly exactly that nasty smug breed of "techies" (according to my personal observations).
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People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)