New York Magazine: Is San Francisco New York? (2014, neighborhoods)

[18Montclair]

I hope not.

Is San Francisco New York? -- New York Magazine

[Natural510]

By "New York" you mean 1980s Manhattan? Yes.

[04kL4nD]

I thought the article was spot on.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by 04kL4nD

I thought the article was spot on.

There is defintely no shortage of cut throat MBAs these days, thats for darn sure.

[04kL4nD]

I think people need to stop pretending SF is the same city that became famous back in the 1960s.

My New York friends tend to brush off what’s happening in San Francisco with one word: bubble. After all, people flocked to Silicon Valley in 1999, they say, only to be flung back to New York when the start-up scene burst. But what if this tech bubble doesn’t end in sock puppets and Schadenfreude? What if, as MIT professors Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee recently wrote, we’re not just dealing with a temporary tech craze but the dawn of a “second machine age” that will fundamentally realign the entire global economy? And what if most of the technology that powers that revolution is made in California?
Whatever the Silicon Valley gold rush has done or will do, it’s already given us an entirely new species of yuppie mogul: the one who stockpiles bitcoin and speaks in hacker pidgin, the one who wears Uniqlo on a Gulfstream and obsesses over single-origin coffees. The kind, in other words, who plays the underdog even while sitting on top of the world.

[Chimérique]

Hmm, a typical New Yorker article, We are such a great City(NYC), oh my, looks like we have some competition now, we'll have to put a stop to that some how, or find a way to pull that wealth our way. Sounds like they are jealous and both arrogant and condescending as noted below:

"Of course, San Francisco won’t truly become New York, and not just because New York’s economy is nearly twice as big as the country’s next biggest (that’s L.A.’s, not San Francisco’s, which ranks eighth). San Francisco is too earnest, too eager to be liked, to truly wallow in its wealth like Bloomberg’s New York. (If Martin Scorsese had made The Wolf of Silicon Valley, it would have been two hours of Leonardo DiCaprio apologizing for spilling the Dom Pérignon.) The utopian streak of the tech sector paints a thick veneer of do-gooderism over even the rawest capitalistic conquests, and coupled with a desire to appease the locals, it’s what keeps San Francisco’s ruling class from really letting go."

"My New York friends tend to brush off what’s happening in San Francisco with one word: bubble."

[04kL4nD]

Actually, it sounds pretty accurate to me. SF has the inferiority complex, not NYC. I love both cities, but it's pretty obvious SF is trying to Manhattanize. SF is a wonderful city, but it will probably never be on NYC's level of global importance, no matter how hard it tries.

[West Coast Republican]

I don't know, I've never been to New York City, I don't think they have much in common other than being huge world class cities.

San Francisco has lots of hills and mountain views, it's a perfect blend of urban and Nature in one. NYC I've been told has no such natural beauty aside from some man made parks dotted throughout the city. The cultures are probably quite different too, but overall you'll find people from all beliefs and walks of life in any large city. Both are culturally diverse, but I'm not sure what city has more.

I think NYC would be cool to visit but wouldn't want to live there. The winters are way too harsh in the Northeast. San Francisco has great weather aside from the fog in the mornings.

[jade408]

SF doesn't have the energy of NYC. But the parellels to 80s Manhattan are pretty accurate. Oddly in some ways NYC is the new sf. Bike lanes. Hipsters. Blue bottle coffee. Hahaha

[Deezus]

Reading that article just made me sort of look forward to the next economic crash...

What's going on in San Francisco these days isn't even just your standard gentrification where yuppie families with designer strollers push out the hipsters and artists who initially pushed out the working class ethnics who used to live in the old neighborhoods. It's a whole 'nutha ballgame from the last round of gentrification, but in the end it's just another Gold Rush mentality in a state famous for them... Sooner or later though, while Google and Facebook might stick around--there will be a bust, and the luster will fade for a second before the people start waiting for the next big thing.

Also if SF is comparable to 80s Manhattan, what is the current drug of choice, because I heard cocaine had fallen out of favor again since the last decade... Or do people just get their rocks off trading bitcoins these days?