I hate living in San Francisco (Fresno, Oakland: best cities, high school, college)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by datown

Seems like all the newbies start in San Francisco proper then move to other cities as they realize San Francisco is just a place to make your money. Move to a different part of the Bay Area and take Bart. With Bart's speed and MUNI's slowness, many East Bay commuters have the same commute time as people that live in San Francisco.

Yeah! Like me. Moved to SF in the late 1960's and still here, retired.
Oh wait -

[marcopolo666]

FYI. This is the ONLY post by OP in the last 7 months. Actually, the only post EVER. So it seems to be a 'hate' post ("I hate XYZ") designed to accumulate posts.

i suggest you stop responding/replying to an obvious troll post.

[mstnghu2]

Originally Posted by hiramjones8

there is nobody who has not like to live San Francisco.but i cant believe that when i see your post.i wish to feel like to like in San Francisco.Summers in San Francisco are not cold.so you can take a great opportunity here.

Huh?

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by mstnghu2

Huh?

I sometimes "wish to feel like to like in San Francisco" too. But I more often feel like to like in SJ, so I opt to live here, and avail myself the opportunity to experience the SF like to like when the occasional urge arises. Same with SC.

[jessemh431]

Originally Posted by ryuencrash

The entire Bay Area is overrated. It's nothing but cliquey, self righteous, passive-aggressive, insular, insecure, close minded people who believe they're so open minded and liberal.
Dating out here is like trying to jump through hoops of fire that are moving up and down and soaked in gasoline. You can thank the Tech companies for creating such an imbalance in the Male to Female ratio.
Unless you're the "cultural fit"(cliquey, self righteous, passive-aggressive, insular, insecure, close minded), you're going to have a very hard time here. Inside and outside of work. Back to the East I go.

Couldn't have said it any better. Never met such a horrible group of people in my life. Being from LA (and no, I didn't flaunt it), I was regularly shunned by social groups of people from Seattle, NorCal, and the Central Valley. The Asians would leave me out of their friend group because I'm not Asian. The Russian group would leave me out because I'm not Russian enough and don't speak Russian. I never fit in with the gay population because I'm not gay enough. The white people are generally too granola for my liking and very judgmental to those who aren't. Nearly everyone I called a "friend" was just someone to keep me from being lonely until I moved. No matter what I did, no matter how great of an accomplishment I shared with them, they always had to 1-up me and could never simply congratulate me. The story was always turned around to how great their life is or how they did something like that even better than me or generally something along those lines.

I'll be the first one to tell you, I have no filter. All over the world, people have loved me for my honesty, being outspoken, and being so outgoing. I felt so restricted in SF because every time I opened my mouth, I was afraid I would say a word that was too sensitive to someone. I went on a date with a guy who left a few minutes after I said something about raping the exam I just took because I was too offensive. Telling an Asian man I didn't want to sleep with him because, and he asked why, so I said I'm not sexually attracted to Asians, made me a racist (happened on several occasions). Not being sexually attracted to overly effeminate gays made me a homophobe. Joking about being more "Mexican" than some Mexicans I know because of my interests and passions labeled me racist (I'm racist for enjoying Mexican culture). Being pro-Israeli makes me an ignorant, uneducated, heartless ***hole. Not enjoying the taste of PBR made me uncool. Thinking some place besides SF was better made me stupid and I was always wrong simply for having a different opinion. Defending my home of Los Angeles from baseless attacks made me wrong. Actually enjoying going back to LA was incorrect. Actually wanting to go on a date with a guy ostracized me from the promiscuous gay culture. Not enjoying the gay bars made me weird and undesirable.

Yeah, I guess when you come from a farm in Iowa, you can call SF "your city", but that never gives anyone the right to tell others they're wrong for having an opinion. Visit LA. See if you can hear anyone talking about how much better LA is than SF and how SF is so stupid. Wear SF gear. Move here and rep it to your friends. Yeah we might snicker at you. The other way around though? All over SF conversations regularly revolve around how perfect SF, how it's the best city on earth, how LA sucks, etc. and just simply being from LA and enjoying being from there demotes you to a second-class citizen.

So no, SF is not this land of openness and opportunity like it once was. It's exactly how ryuencrash described.

P.S. As a little side rant, I can't stand any sports fans in SF because all I ever heard during sports season was how SF is so much better than LA in everything. Not just sports. But because the Giants and 49ers all of a sudden became good teams, it gave SF even more of an ego boost. I wasn't aware their ego could get any greater!! By far the biggest bandwagon city in the nation, yet they can't stop talking about how great "their city" is.

[dalparadise]

Originally Posted by jessemh431

Couldn't have said it any better. Never met such a horrible group of people in my life. Being from LA (and no, I didn't flaunt it), I was regularly shunned by social groups of people from Seattle, NorCal, and the Central Valley. The Asians would leave me out of their friend group because I'm not Asian. The Russian group would leave me out because I'm not Russian enough and don't speak Russian. I never fit in with the gay population because I'm not gay enough. The white people are generally too granola for my liking and very judgmental to those who aren't. Nearly everyone I called a "friend" was just someone to keep me from being lonely until I moved. No matter what I did, no matter how great of an accomplishment I shared with them, they always had to 1-up me and could never simply congratulate me. The story was always turned around to how great their life is or how they did something like that even better than me or generally something along those lines.

I'll be the first one to tell you, I have no filter. All over the world, people have loved me for my honesty, being outspoken, and being so outgoing. I felt so restricted in SF because every time I opened my mouth, I was afraid I would say a word that was too sensitive to someone. I went on a date with a guy who left a few minutes after I said something about raping the exam I just took because I was too offensive. Telling an Asian man I didn't want to sleep with him because, and he asked why, so I said I'm not sexually attracted to Asians, made me a racist (happened on several occasions). Not being sexually attracted to overly effeminate gays made me a homophobe. Joking about being more "Mexican" than some Mexicans I know because of my interests and passions labeled me racist (I'm racist for enjoying Mexican culture). Being pro-Israeli makes me an ignorant, uneducated, heartless ***hole. Not enjoying the taste of PBR made me uncool. Thinking some place besides SF was better made me stupid and I was always wrong simply for having a different opinion. Defending my home of Los Angeles from baseless attacks made me wrong. Actually enjoying going back to LA was incorrect. Actually wanting to go on a date with a guy ostracized me from the promiscuous gay culture. Not enjoying the gay bars made me weird and undesirable.

Yeah, I guess when you come from a farm in Iowa, you can call SF "your city", but that never gives anyone the right to tell others they're wrong for having an opinion. Visit LA. See if you can hear anyone talking about how much better LA is than SF and how SF is so stupid. Wear SF gear. Move here and rep it to your friends. Yeah we might snicker at you. The other way around though? All over SF conversations regularly revolve around how perfect SF, how it's the best city on earth, how LA sucks, etc. and just simply being from LA and enjoying being from there demotes you to a second-class citizen.

So no, SF is not this land of openness and opportunity like it once was. It's exactly how ryuencrash described.

P.S. As a little side rant, I can't stand any sports fans in SF because all I ever heard during sports season was how SF is so much better than LA in everything. Not just sports. But because the Giants and 49ers all of a sudden became good teams, it gave SF even more of an ego boost. I wasn't aware their ego could get any greater!! By far the biggest bandwagon city in the nation, yet they can't stop talking about how great "their city" is.

You don't present yourself in this post as a very likable or interesting person. are you certain the problem wasn't you?

Even if the only people you could relate to were former Angelenos, there are thousands of them in SF. In my office, about 1/4 of the staff comes from Southern California. We all get along fine and even use the company Giants tickets to go to Giants vs. Dodgers games.

[LexusNexus]

Originally Posted by marcopolo666

FYI. This is the ONLY post by OP in the last 7 months. Actually, the only post EVER. So it seems to be a 'hate' post ("I hate XYZ") designed to accumulate posts.

i suggest you stop responding/replying to an obvious troll post.

I don't believe in "troll" posts, and find the concept of a "troll" to be incredibly ridiculous. The OP expressed an opinion that wasn't favorable to the city, and that viewpoint is just as informative as one that is favorable.

Why attack the messenger because you don't agree with the message?

[jessemh431]

Originally Posted by dalparadise

You don't present yourself in this post as a very likable or interesting person. are you certain the problem wasn't you?

Even if the only people you could relate to were former Angelenos, there are thousands of them in SF. In my office, about 1/4 of the staff comes from Southern California. We all get along fine and even use the company Giants tickets to go to Giants vs. Dodgers games.

So the fact I have friends literally all over the world and people generally find me to be one of the friendliest and most fun people they've ever met means nothing? The only place I didn't have true friends or feel like didn't I fit in was in SF. It was the most closed-off and closed-minded group of people I've ever met. I have friends I still talk to on different continents and I have always had a large group of friends...except in SF.

[Bonez765]

Originally Posted by dalparadise

You don't present yourself in this post as a very likable or interesting person. are you certain the problem wasn't you?

Even if the only people you could relate to were former Angelenos, there are thousands of them in SF. In my office, about 1/4 of the staff comes from Southern California. We all get along fine and even use the company Giants tickets to go to Giants vs. Dodgers games.

typical transplant.

[04kL4nD]

Originally Posted by jessemh431

So the fact I have friends literally all over the world and people generally find me to be one of the friendliest and most fun people they've ever met means nothing? The only place I didn't have true friends or feel like didn't I fit in was in SF. It was the most closed-off and closed-minded group of people I've ever met. I have friends I still talk to on different continents and I have always had a large group of friends...except in SF.

You've LITERALLY been all over the world, yourself? Wow! Tell us more!

You seem pretty arrogant and opinionated, yet not at all worldly, despite your claims.

People probably didn't like you in SF because you sound full of yourself and like you're trying too hard.