Vallejo Depressing Cheap Place to live (Oakland, Concord: apartment, violent crime, neighbourhoods)

[rah]

Originally Posted by sav858

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Vallejo hasn't changed one bit for the better in 30+ years and has actually gotten worse. .

Not really.

Vallejo violent crime rate:

1987: 2,465.0
1990: 1,375.5
1995: 1,455.7
2000: 1,110.8
2006: 1,017.4
2010: 709.0
2012: 744.6

[PixelatedTherapy]

Originally Posted by PixelatedTherapy

People seem to exaggerate crime in pretty much every city.

Originally Posted by sav858

Vallejo hasn't changed one bit for the better in 30+ years and has actually gotten worse.

Originally Posted by rah

Not really.

Vallejo violent crime rate:

1987: 2,465.0
1990: 1,375.5
1995: 1,455.7
2000: 1,110.8
2006: 1,017.4
2010: 709.0
2012: 744.6

lol. Crime has been going down nationwide while the coverae/reporting of crime has gone up exponentially.

[sav858]

Every city has lower crime than they did in the late 80's/early 90's.

City data crime stats show pretty much no difference in Vallejo's crime rate over the last 10 years.

2013 was a particularly bloody year in Vallejo
Vallejo homicide numbers highest in nearly 20 years

[WizardOfRadical]

It is far from everything and ghetto, hence why it is cheap.

[PixelatedTherapy]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

It is far from everything and ghetto, hence why it is cheap.

Vallejo has some nice areas. Glen Cove in particular is really nice, and the downtown area is somewhat charming. It's also really fun to take the ferry into the city. There is a crime problem, but you have to understand just like in most places the crime tends to be complied into only a few neighborhoods, stay out of high crime areas and you should be fine. It's not like people aren't going to shop in Union Square because it borders the Tenderloin. So why let a few bad areas turn you off to an entire city?

[rah]

Originally Posted by sav858

Every city has lower crime than they did in the late 80's/early 90's.

City data crime stats show pretty much no difference in Vallejo's crime rate over the last 10 years.

2013 was a particularly bloody year in Vallejo
Vallejo homicide numbers highest in nearly 20 years

That recent spike in murders is bad (and Vallejo isn't alone in having a recent murder spike), but you said that Vallejo has not gotten better at all in 30 years, yet FBI stats show that violent crime was two to three times higher in the late 1980s and early-mid 1990s (the property crime rate was much higher too). The burglary rate has risen over the past decade, but is still lower than it was 30 years ago. The only crime category that is much higher now than it was 30 years ago is auto theft.

I'm not sure how city-data has concluded that there hasn't been a drop in the crime index over the last ten to fifteen years, because FBI stats show that both the property and violent crime rates are lower now then they were back then.

[clongirl]

Originally Posted by sav858

I'm not the only one that thinks the Monument corridor is ghetto, a lot of people do, so I'm not sure what your point is with that. Do you go around telling the other Lafayette soccer moms about how you're a SF native and your former bf's from Vallejo for some street cred? Bumping some Mac Dre in the minivan? You're so hardcore Clongirl.

Well then tell me about the gentrification if you're so knowledgeable about it....oh wait you're not are you? Nor is anyone else on this thread praising Vallejo.

Lol. Not sure why you are so defensive about it. I'm not gonna prattle on my life's history but I was a wild teen that had more than her fair share of street "wisdom" that knew and hung out with some guys from some "not so nice" neighbourhoods around the Bay area. I'm soccer mom" now but let's just say that I'm far more familiar with places that you seem to think are ghetto. But from my perspective, aren't as scary as you make them out to be. From this now, (and thankfully, soccer mom's) perspective, those places are really not that bad.

You can insult me all you like if that gives you satisfaction or makes you feel superior, since you're trying so hard, but I'm not gonna go into what I know from my younger days. I got around, and yes.. Now I'm a very grateful and incredibly fortunate woman with a very long and rich history.

In not praising Vallejo. I just know that's it's not all bad and that it's definitely becoming more gentrified (similar to Oakland). Where the hell else do you think bay area renters are moving when they wanna buy a house??

(Of course I wouldn't go around talking about "Mac Dre". That's WAY before my time and have no idea who that is. I've grown up since and the DJ/breakdancing days.... Moved on LONG ago.

Monument still isn't a ghetto from MY perspective....Wimp.

[Dave Coe]

I't odd that it's so ghetto but so close to Napa and Wine Country. I think it has potential to be fixed up.

[clongirl]

Originally Posted by WizardOfRadical

It is far from everything and ghetto, hence why it is cheap.

How odd that someone living in (or from Santa Cruz) would even say that! Are you even aware of the bad reputation that most folks think about the place? Transient/Mentally ill/ meth -or heroin addicts/runaway/ homeless/ pedophile/ beach bums?

Oh that sounds much better because they are generally white? I personally like the place but pot.. meet kettle.

[justmeinca]

Originally Posted by Dave Coe

I't odd that it's so ghetto but so close to Napa and Wine Country. I think it has potential to be fixed up.

East Palo Alto is RIGHT NEXT to Palo Alto.