Ew, seeing Peter Thiel speak at the RNC convention is making my skin itch (crime, credit)

[the happy guy]

Originally Posted by bmw335xi

Right because Thiel as a gay person may only support a democrat because the liberal elites have dicatated so... It's the same thing when a black person points to the elephant in the room by saying if we believe black lives matter than we can't ignore that the majority of the murders of our brothers and sisters happens in our own communities by each other. Oh right, he is just a nut job and Thiel is just a moron. How dare people like this think differently than dictated by the white liberal elitist!

Abstract: Nothing is being ignored. A community isn't going to forfeit fair treatment and civil rights just because it has crime.

Your ignorance is shining bright this morning.

The narrative of black on black crime is intended to associate inherent criminality and evil with blackness. African Americans aren't uniquely predisposed to commit crime/ commit crime against each other. (84% of white victims are killed by whites - but there is no narrative of white on white crime). Most violent crime is intra-racial, because there are continued levels of racial segregation - white people are more likely to live near other white people, black people are more likely to live near other black people. Thus, the term black on black crime is a misnomer.

Secondly, Black Lives Matter is an organization that protests police brutality and racial inequalities in the criminal justice system. This isn't separate from confronting issues of urban crime because fostering better policing practices works to build trust, morale and accountability, which in turn builds cooperation, participation, and partnership within/between communities and law enforcement to address issues with crime.

Lastly, not only is it suppressive to suggest African Americans do not have reason, urgency, or the right to protest police brutality and racial inequalities in the criminal justice system, but there are countless of African American organizations that address issues of urban violence. So media pundits, public officials, and politicians that suggest otherwise, are either lying, misinformed, or willfully ignorant. There are marches, events, programs, fraternities, churches, initiatives, etc, that serve this very issue on a daily basis.

As a matter of fact, here are just a few I have found in less than one minute with a google search!

The mission to stop the violence focused on Chicago's hot spots Friday night.
A multi-community march was held in nine of the city's most violent neighborhoods as well as three other communities. The march for peace was personal for some participants.

March to stop violence held in Chicago | abc7chicago.com
More here:
Why Don't Black People Protest 'Black-on-Black Violence'? - The Atlantic

Young Men of Color
Young Men of Color - Mentoring USA

My Brother's Keeper
https://www.whitehouse.gov/my-brothers-keeper

100 Black Men of America
100 Black Men of America, Inc.

Bme Community
Home - BMe

Young Men Empowerment Program
Young Men's Empowerment - The Leadership ProgramThe Leadership Program

YBM Leadership Alliance
http://www.ybmleadership.com/

Black Male Engagement
Black Male Engagement - Knight Foundation

Ok Program
OK Program

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by the happy guy

Abstract: Nothing is being ignored. A community isn't going to forfeit fair treatment and civil rights just because it has crime.

Your ignorance is shining bright this morning.

The narrative of black on black crime is intended to associate inherent criminality and evil with blackness. African Americans aren't uniquely predisposed to commit crime/ commit crime against each other. (84% of white victims are killed by whites - but there is no narrative of white on white crime). Most violent crime is intra-racial, because there are continued levels of racial segregation - white people are more likely to live near other white people, black people are more likely to live near other black people. Thus, the term black on black crime is a misnomer.

Secondly, Black Lives Matter is an organization that protests police brutality and racial inequalities in the criminal justice system. This isn't separate from confronting issues of urban crime because fostering better policing practices works to build trust, morale and accountability, which in turn builds cooperation, participation, and partnership within/between communities and law enforcement to address issues with crime.

Lastly, not only is it suppressive to suggest African Americans do not have reason, urgency, or the right to protest police brutality and racial inequalities in the criminal justice system, but there are countless of African American organizations that address issues of urban violence. So media pundits, public officials, and politicians that suggest otherwise, are either lying, misinformed, or willfully ignorant. There are marches, events, programs, fraternities, churches, initiatives, etc, that serve this very issue on a daily basis.

As a matter of fact, here are just a few I have found in less than one minute with a google search!

March to stop violence held in Chicago | abc7chicago.com
More here:
Why Don't Black People Protest 'Black-on-Black Violence'? - The Atlantic

Young Men of Color
Young Men of Color - Mentoring USA

My Brother's Keeper
https://www.whitehouse.gov/my-brothers-keeper

100 Black Men of America
100 Black Men of America, Inc.

Bme Community
Home - BMe

Young Men Empowerment Program
Young Men's Empowerment - The Leadership ProgramThe Leadership Program

YBM Leadership Alliance
http://www.ybmleadership.com/

Black Male Engagement
Black Male Engagement - Knight Foundation

Ok Program
OK Program

Heh

[the happy guy]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Welcome to the new America where creators, innovators, risk-takers, dreamers, hard-workers, strivers are looked down upon, even called morons. What is exalted is sloth and ineptitude.

Originally Posted by bmw335xi

A smart, successful, and well spoken billionaire is not a moron.

haha I am not surprised you two responded with straw man fallacies! What does net worth or work ethic have to do with the brainless-unethical-troublesome inclination to support and encourage intolerance (racism, xenophopia, homophobia, sexism)?

Thiel is supporting a party and ideology of intolerance. Him being a billionaire does not exempt him from faults and disapproval.

[TheGreatCurve]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Whether one agrees with Hillary's ideological platforms or not, she isn't insane, or moronic.

She actually said that she wasn't concerned about her private e-mail servers being hacked because she had secret service agents guarding the outside of her house. LOL

She's also made a mess of foreign policy, especially in the Middle East.

And let's not even mention sending and storing classified information on her private servers and the whole Benghazi debacle.

And, no, I'm not pro-Trump.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Welcome to the new America where creators, innovators, risk-takers, dreamers, hard-workers, strivers are looked down upon, even called morons. What is exalted is sloth and ineptitude.

Welcome to today's America where xenophobia, bigotry, misogyny, ridicule of the disabled, lying through your teeth, narcissism, lack of impulse control, vulgarity, embrace of violence are at least acceptable - and often championed by about 1/3 of the population. What is exalted is shallow material wealth and fascism.

It's a Brave New World.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by TheGreatCurve

She actually said that she wasn't concerned about her private e-mail servers being hacked because she had secret service agents guarding the outside of her house. LOL

She's also made a mess of foreign policy, especially in the Middle East.

And let's not even mention sending and storing classified information on her private servers and the whole Benghazi debacle.

And, no, I'm not pro-Trump.

None of your complaints are signs of insanity or sheer mental incompetence. Feel free to argue the degree to which they show ignorance.

And your opinion of her role in shaping and controlling foreign policy is your own - and not that of over 66% of the population (including Donald J. Trump) at the time she served that role.

[the happy guy]

Originally Posted by scirocco

You're just jealous and somewhat confused now. A gay republican , proud of his sexuality and openly embraced by his political party of choice. That must be such a party pooper to see how clearly being gay and being republican are not mutually exclusive.

By the way SF is a very diverse city. There is a very conservative gay community who just stay out of the protests and the overt behavior that goes along with it. A large group all told and one that is probably more openminded in a real sense than most.

Sure, his party embraces billionaires. They don't however, embrace the LGBTQ community. I never said a person who is both gay and conservative couldn't exist, I said they are voting against their cultural interests, because while San Francisco is a gay friendly region, the republican party/conservative ideology is not gay friendly.

[bmw335xi]

I think their heads are about to explode that the party they always point to as anti-gay actually had a standing round of applause for Thiel and it was the nominee's decision to have the firdt openly gay speaker at the convention as well demanding the LGBT community needs protection as well. Instead of these ultra liberals being happy for this change, they see their world crumbling. Selfish _____!

[the happy guy]

Originally Posted by bmw335xi

I think their heads are about to explode that the party they always point to as anti-gay actually had a standing round of applause for Thiel and it was the nominee's decision to have the firdt openly gay speaker at the convention as well demanding the LGBT community needs protection as well. Instead of these ultra liberals being happy for this change, they see their world crumbling. Selfish _____!

Yes, I'm sure that applause brought appreciable alleviation and will vindicate them for pushing- as we speak -the (most) anti-gay platform in history.

“You can swim all day in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out completely dry. Most people do.”
- Norton Juster

[bmw335xi]

Originally Posted by the happy guy

Yes, I'm sure that applause brought appreciable alleviation and will vindicate them for pushing the (most) anti-gay platform in history, as we speak.

“You can swim all day in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out completely dry. Most people do.”
- Norton Juster

You fail to see the big picture. This was the first time EVER an openly gay person was given a speaking slot and it was thanks to Trump who really doesn't have an issue with people being gay. He even said bathroom laws don't need to be changed either. There are many people who agree with the GOP platform in everything besides social issues. Trump is starting the change in social issues and once it actually becomes the norm, Democrats are going to be a big trouble. That is one of the reasons why liberals are trying to bury this and just make Thiel sound like a moron. Shame! Shame! Shame!