04-27-2017, 04:29 PM
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and still the snobbery continues... Greg op I bet you can't get out of N Ca fast enough. And I'm a daughter not a son
lol it's definitely tiring dealing with this place day in & day out. Make the best of it while I'm here I suppose. I know the move is coming, so that's the positive side of things
04-27-2017, 10:32 PM
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Something to think about. To those that tout the top rated Michelin restaurants as a reason to live there, how often do you dine there?
Every weekend?
Once a month?
Once a year?
I know it's really expensive so I'm wondering if you all have an income that allows you to pop for $500 for a meal for 2 every weekend. I lived in Ca for 57 years and only know one person that went to these types of places and said he did it to say he did it, but didn't plan on ever going back. It was good, but he said for $100 he could have had a meal he was just as happy with.
The point I'm making is that for some people who seldom eat there and can live cheaper elsewhere, they could always vacation in Ca and eat at these places with the money they save and still have lot's left over.
Just a thought.
04-27-2017, 10:55 PM
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I'm a traditionalist and go by the Michelin rankings. These are the 3 star Michelin restaurants in the USA.
New York and the Bay Area have the most Atlanta ,Philadelphia and charleston have none.
Location Restaurant Head chef Year of award
Chicago Alinea Grant Achatz 2011[66]
Chicago Grace Curtis Duffy 2015[67]
New York City Jean Georges Mark LaPico 2006[68]
New York City Le Bernardin Eric Ripert 2006[68]
New York City Per Se Thomas Keller 2006[68]
New York City Masa Masa Takayama 2009[69]
New York City Eleven Madison Park Daniel Humm 2012[70]
New York City Chef's Table at Brooklyn Fare César RamÃrez 2012[70]
Yountville, California The French Laundry Thomas Keller 2007[71]
St. Helena, California The Restaurant at Meadowood Christopher Kostow 2011[72]
San Francisco Benu Corey Lee 2015[73][74]
San Francisco Saison Joshua Skenes 2015[73][75]
Los Gatos, California Manresa David Kinch 2016[76]
San Francisco Quince Michael Tusk 2017[77]
Fine dining is Paris,Japan,New York ,Bay Area at least for people whose job is knowing about these type of things
Who cares? It is difficult to find something I care less about than Michelin restaurants.(even though I always buy Michelin tires). I have dined out at restaurants in the city of San Francisco exactly 3 times since Sept. 2010. Two of those times were with out of town visitors and one was a Chinese New Year dinner. I especially cannot stand pretentious restaurants and I consider their presence a huge negative.
04-27-2017, 10:59 PM
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Make the best of it while I'm here I suppose. I know the move is coming, so that's the positive side of things
My favorite locations in the bay area are places with Pacific Ocean coastline like Pacifica, Montara, Pillar Point Harbor and Half Moon Bay. Check them out on a weekday if possible. The weekend Half Moon Bay traffic is horrible. Good luck with your move!
04-28-2017, 07:21 AM
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My favorite locations in the bay area are places with Pacific Ocean coastline like Pacifica, Montara, Pillar Point Harbor and Half Moon Bay. Check them out on a weekday if possible. The weekend Half Moon Bay traffic is horrible. Good luck with your move!
We've been to all the places you mentioned. We've done a lot of exploring here, and the scenery is great! We enjoy Tahoe. The snowboarding was great this winter, and paddle boarding on the lake in the summer is awesome
04-30-2017, 07:13 PM
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FYI Greg (I figured I'd share this with you since you're at least open minded enough to appreciate this)...my wife and I were walking the neighborhood this weekend and came across one of my neighbors who was a Democrat (I suspect it's a fair assumption since he had posters in his window for every Democratic candidate for the last 20 years at election time). We mentioned that we were thinking about relocating (the area we're considering is a "Blue" area). He said it was a good choice because it was one of the areas that "we" would fit in. Just for clarity, I asked if he meant politically and he said "yes". But of course, according to the posters here, this type of thing just doesn't go on in conversations.
It never ceases to amaze what people are brainwashed into believing. Right up their with the earlier prediction I made. It's simply ridiculous to deny it.
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04-30-2017, 08:10 PM
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Something to think about. To those that tout the top rated Michelin restaurants as a reason to live there, how often do you dine there?
Every weekend?
Once a month?
Once a year?
I know it's really expensive so I'm wondering if you all have an income that allows you to pop for $500 for a meal for 2 every weekend. I lived in Ca for 57 years and only know one person that went to these types of places and said he did it to say he did it, but didn't plan on ever going back. It was good, but he said for $100 he could have had a meal he was just as happy with.
The point I'm making is that for some people who seldom eat there and can live cheaper elsewhere, they could always vacation in Ca and eat at these places with the money they save and still have lot's left over.
Just a thought.
I know people who don't like the Bay Area hate to hear this but there are extremely wealthy people who liive in the Bay Area
The top 1% in San Francisco make over $800,000 a year
A plurality of people around here believe you need a Net worth of $6 million to be wealthy and a net worth over $1 million to be comfortable. Not me a lot of people
http://www.townandcountrymag.com/soc...y-bay-area-sf/
You can make half a million a year ,own a $2 million home and have a net worth of $4 million and you are not wealthy here
A 900 square foot tear down home sold for $2.25 million in Palo Alto
Homes in Oakland neighborhoods
Rockridge $2-3 million
Crockerhighlands $2-3 million
Claremont pines $2-4 million
And that's Oakland
Cow hollow can run $6-10 million
Noe valley $4-6 million
Presidio heights $5-10 million
Glen park$3-6 millions
And I haven't even touched on the "truly wealthy " areas like Hillsborough or sea cliff with homes running in the $14-20 million
I know seeing these numbers is going to make some people butt hurt.
04-30-2017, 08:13 PM
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That's pretty much in line with my experiences also, nmnita. I don't see those pockets of Conservatives you refer to (don't live in the Central Valley...been mostly either in the city or 5 miles of it for the last 50 years). I'd say about 1 in 3 in my neighborhood are far left. What I find is amazing is how they just hurl insults toward any Republican President, making the assumption that everyone agrees with their viewpoint. Apparently they have no idea how that just makes them look like pompous a-holes. As much as I like to give some people the business on-line (and many deserve it with the rudeness they dish out), I'm very respectful of people and their viewpoints in my neighborhood and at work. Unfortunately, I can count on one hand how many people I can have a civil conversation about politics in this area. It's pretty much "their way or the highway thing" with the majority and has been that way for years in my neighborhood and my workplace. Personally, I think all the labelling BS is sad. People simply can't talk about issues here and root for political parties like sports teams. I stopped rooting for sports teams years ago. Many of my friends say I remind them of a Vegas gambler. I put my money on the team that gives me the best chance of winning. Plenty of people have different priorities than the people in the Bay Area (and for that matter, the country ). Too bad the vast majority in this area can't seem to grasp that.
^^Pretty much my experience, too.
04-30-2017, 08:15 PM
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And thus has it ever been. Don't you remember when you were a kid hearing that when engaging in polite conversation, you don't talk about religion and politics? People get emotionally involved, and to many, it is not possible to have a "civil conversation" if there is disagreement in these areas. And that is on both sides of the aisle. In addition to being very contentious topics in general, people take these things very personally. One's belief system is a reflection of the inner self, and woe be to the person that threatens that that!
....But that's the thing....a lot people bring up politics a lot in the Bay Area, or they make everything political when it need not be.
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People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)