The San Francisco Trash/Needles/Poop in the Streets Containment Thread (Montclair: universities, salaries)

[18Montclair]

Sorry Fox News Viewers. You cant complain that SF is too expensive for non millionaires and then smugly create threads to "expose" and mock a city job whose salary provides an actual living wage that is about the income required to buy a condo in SF.

So do you want non millionaires in SF or not? Should city employees be able to afford to live in SF or not?

[veritased]

It's not about what 'Fox News Viewers' want, whomever they are, but it's about Economics 101, which eschews Socialism 101, which dictates affordability, and wages, or at least it should, before it gets tainted by progressive distortions of incentives.

It's 'living wages' of $180K for poop scooping that will break California public employee benefits system.

You want everyone to have free money, and either you take it from others, or you print it.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by veritased

It's not about what 'Fox News Viewers' want, whomever they are, but it's about Economics 101, which eschews Socialism 101, which dictates affordability, and wages, or at least it should, before it gets tainted by progressive distortions of incentives.

It's 'living wages' of $180K for poop scooping that will break California public employee benefits system.

You want everyone to have free money, and either you take it from others, or you print it.

I don't think the figure for benefits is accurate, and even if it is, it would be that much for a secretary school teacher, civil engineer or accountant. But maybe you could save the City a lot of money and volunteer your labor to save them some money?

[ketch89]

Sorry 18Montclair, I'm as left as they get, but you can't argue that poop scoopers should be paid 180k annually. That's absurd. The city should fire these people and contract a private firm to do it for a quarter of that price...



There's a word for this - it's corruption.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Sorry Fox News Viewers. You cant complain that SF is too expensive for non millionaires and then smugly create threads to "expose" and mock a city job whose salary provides an actual living wage that is about the income required to buy a condo in SF.

So do you want non millionaires in SF or not? Should city employees be able to afford to live in SF or not?

they just want to whine about the City that they apparently can't afford to live in. That's the only reason I can think of for this peculiar obsession.

[CorporateCowboy]

Originally Posted by ketch89

Sorry 18Montclair, I'm as left as they get, but you can't argue that poop scoopers should be paid 180k annually. That's absurd. The city should fire these people and contract a private firm to do it for a quarter of that price...



There's a word for this - it's corruption.

It’s a team of five or six people - and the salary is about $72,000. So who is going to do it for $18,000? You?

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by ketch89

Sorry 18Montclair, I'm as left as they get, but you can't argue that poop scoopers should be paid 180k annually. That's absurd. The city should fire these people and contract a private firm to do it for a quarter of that price...



There's a word for this - it's corruption.

Their entire ilk has disparaged San Francisco for YEARS. It's really quite pathetic and I think it's due to resentment that such a liberal area of the country could be so prosperous and entreprenureal.

[Indiana Tony]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Their entire ilk has disparaged San Francisco for YEARS. It's really quite pathetic and I think it's due to resentment that such a liberal area of the country could be so prosperous and entreprenureal.

It's so prosperous that it drove out most African-Americans. Shame.

[2sleepy]

That 184k number is dead wrong. I don't know if it started out with a typo or someone just making stuff up. I found the list of salary and benefits for all San Francisco employees. The closest job description I could find that matches these 'responsibilities' is Environmental Health Tech I. The average salary for that job appears to be around $66,000 but there are employers making $71,000. I found one with a salary of $70,868 and total compensation including benefits is $96,908.97 which is what I expected it to be. The breakdown of benefit costs for that employee is
Retirement $12,579
Health & Dental $7,566.94
Other $5764.38
Total Compensation: $96,908.97.
https://data.sfgov.org/City-Manageme...88g8-5mnd/data

I am going to email the Chronicle and ask them to double check their figures because that seems to be the original source

[veritased]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

they just want to whine about the City that they apparently can't afford to live in. That's the only reason I can think of for this peculiar obsession.

2sleepy don't confuse ridiculing with whining LOL.
This is pure ridicule.