US Birth Rate Falls to 30-year low; Is the Evident in the Bay Area? (Oakland: high school, prices)

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by Dave Coe

The issue is not so much the overall birth date but the specific birthrates by group. Illegal immigrants are having tons of kids, new Asian immigrants still but a strong emphasis on family. The problem is mainly that the well educated White population has little interest in starting families. Even Marin which is still mostly White has an ageing population. Central Contra Costa might be the exception but that is changing.

On cue...someone always has to bring in the race/ethnicity angle. Why am I not surprised it's coming from you again?

[Synchromesh]

Originally Posted by Dave Coe

The issue is not so much the overall birth date but the specific birthrates by group. Illegal immigrants are having tons of kids, new Asian immigrants still but a strong emphasis on family. The problem is mainly that the well educated White population has little interest in starting families. Even Marin which is still mostly White has an ageing population. Central Contra Costa might be the exception but that is changing.

I agree. I see a lot of white guy/Asian girl couples in SF. Occasionally the other way around. Because Asians seem to be more traditional. My apologies but white women in SF are just plain horrible. Not looks-wise but as women. They're so feministic, flaky and liberal that it scares off a lot of guys. There is just nothing feminine about them. They're very much like guys in most ways.

When I lived on the East Coast I thought women weren't great there but it was only when I moved to SF that I realized that they actually weren't bad in comparison. So I stopped dating local women for the most part. That puts me into the "nearly 40 with no kids" bracket.

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by Synchromesh

I agree. I see a lot of white guy/Asian girl couples in SF. Occasionally the other way around. Because Asians seem to be more traditional. My apologies but white women in SF are just plain horrible. Not looks-wise but as women. They're so feministic, flaky and liberal that it scares off a lot of guys. There is just nothing feminine about them. They're very much like guys in most ways.

When I lived on the East Coast I thought women weren't great there but it was only when I moved to SF that I realized that they actually weren't bad in comparison. So I stopped dating local women for the most part. That puts me into the "nearly 40 with no kids" bracket.

Sure it’s not “big gubmints” fault somehow?

[AllenSJC]

The US birthrate is declining, and it's a problem - which is precisely why we need more immigration. That, and immigration is a mutually beneficial (in every way) and inherently morally good thing.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by AllenSJC

The US birthrate is declining, and it's a problem - which is precisely why we need more immigration. That, and immigration is a mutually beneficial (in every way) and inherently morally good thing.

Let’s see:
California roads in coastal and popular areas are choked
Rents and real estate prices are out of reach of 90% of Americans
Parks and beaches are packed and many public venues charge exorbitant fees
Critical resources are being depleted at unsustainable rates
Pollution is winning
People are at each others’ throats in stress ...
Artificial intelligence is on a irreversible juggernaut campaign to eliminate most employment

... and you say a declining birthrate is “a problem”?

What’s a problem is ignoring sustainability to pursue infinite growth in a finite paradigm.

“Growth for its own sake is the ideology of the cancer cell.” - Edward Abbey

[USDefault]

Originally Posted by AllenSJC

The US birthrate is declining, and it's a problem - which is precisely why we need more immigration. That, and immigration is a mutually beneficial (in every way) and inherently morally good thing.

No. The planet is grossly overpopulated; humans are eating, killing, and deficating up everything in site. We don't need your DNA. We don't need your children. And the United States most certainly does not need to be importing additional carbon-spewing units, who will breed even more carbon-spewing units. "Inherently moral" is taking care of current citizens. We owe nothing to non-citizens. Nothing.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by USDefault

No. The planet is grossly overpopulated; humans are eating, killing, and deficating up everything in site. We don't need your DNA. We don't need your children. And the United States most certainly does not need to be importing additional carbon-spewing units, who will breed even more carbon-spewing units. "Inherently moral" is taking care of current citizens. We owe nothing to non-citizens. Nothing.

I concur with you on this 100%
It is very apparent here that we have a definite over population problem here.
It is like a cancer spreading here like the wildfires to the north and south of us.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Let’s see:
California roads in coastal and popular areas are choked
Rents and real estate prices are out of reach of 90% of Americans
Parks and beaches are packed and many public venues charge exorbitant fees
Critical resources are being depleted at unsustainable rates
Pollution is winning
People are at each others’ throats in stress ...
Artificial intelligence is on a irreversible juggernaut campaign to eliminate most employment

... and you say a declining birthrate is “a problem”?

What’s a problem is ignoring sustainability to pursue infinite growth in a finite paradigm.

“Growth for its own sake is the ideology of the cancer cell.” - Edward Abbey

Yes the cancer is spreading. Everyone is competing here and always in a rush. Traffic is horrid especially with the high rate of road rage and shootings we have here. It is only going to get worse.

[PamelaIamela]

Originally Posted by AllenSJC

The US birthrate is declining, and it's a problem - which is precisely why we need more immigration. That, and immigration is a mutually beneficial (in every way) and inherently morally good thing.

Says who?
We are supposed to expand the worlds population indefinitely until we choke on each other's crap?
No thanks. I'll take a constant population any day as endless growth is unsustainable in every way imaginable.

Immigration, under certain and well-controlled circumstances, was once beneficial, but not so much nowadays.

As far as it being inherently moral?
.. Uh, NO.... Even if there was such a thing, which there is not.

[LuvSouthOC]

We must replace the existing population with a more pliable populace, one that wants to be tethered to the government and be entirely reliant upon it. Lower skill, the better, and never mind our not needing any more low skilled workers due to increasing automation. How integratable a given population is to the host one should never be considered. History, religion, IQ and shown adherence to the US Constitution and exclusive loyalty to the United States are all issues that should not be considered.


/sarc