Alameda County Surpasses Contra Costa in Affluence (Oakland, Fremont: fit in, crime)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by aslowdodge

Yes. Dublin is already pricey now overall. People will get pushed into Hayward and the les desirable parts of San Leandro and Oakland.

Yeah I was wondering because as far as schools and desirability, Dublin is a more expensive upgrade over Hayward, not a cheap alternative.

[aslowdodge]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Yeah I was wondering because as far as schools and desirability, Dublin is a more expensive upgrade over Hayward, not a cheap alternative.

Dublin schools have really gotten better from how they used to be. Much better than Hayward’s schools.

[likealady]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Yeah I was wondering because as far as schools and desirability, Dublin is a more expensive upgrade over Hayward, not a cheap alternative.

But I'm saying those who cannot afford the Peninsula move into those areas and drive up the prices. They then push out the lower income people in those cities who then have to move inland. At least that was my original hypothesis for why Alameda county affluence has jumped. I personally know several families who're in Fremont because they couldn't afford the Peninsula but wanted a shorter commute than say, Dublin to Palo Alto. Sending your kid to private school is probably much easier than meeting a higher mortgage.

[Oakformonday]

Originally Posted by Dave Coe

Inner East Bay cities of San Leandro and Hayward and Outer East Bay Cities of Dublin and Pleasanton. In short term are becoming expensive due to proximity to Silicon Valley but over development and immigration will cause them to decline in the long term. Dublin will turn into Fremont and Fremont into West Oakland. Contra Costa will become the new Marin/Peninsula.

I don't think you know this area as well as you think you do. No idea what criteria you are using to form this odd opinion.

[CityGuy88]

Not surprising. A sizeable chunk of the poor from Alameda County are being pushed out into Contra Costa County

Oakland (Alameda County) ---> Antioch, Pittsburg, Richmond (Contra Costa County). I'm actually surprised this didn't happen sooner.

[Dave Coe]

Originally Posted by CityGuy88

Not surprising. A sizeable chunk of the poor from Alameda County are being pushed out into Contra Costa County

Oakland (Alameda County) ---> Antioch, Pittsburg, Richmond (Contra Costa County). I'm actually surprised this didn't happen sooner.

Contra Costa has more extremes of really exclusive and really poor. I have not been to the far out places like Antioch, Pittsburg, or Richmond so I can't really comment. Contra Costa is closer to SF which is more secure as an economic center rather than San Jose's economy which is more transient.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Yeah Bay-O-Vista and the Estudillo Estates area is still very desirable.

Ditto on Pleasanton and Livermore. That area is downright upscale now.

Pleasanton is upscale. Livermore's got some sketch.

Originally Posted by Dave Coe

Contra Costa has more extremes of really exclusive and really poor. I have not been to the far out places like Antioch, Pittsburg, or Richmond so I can't really comment. Contra Costa is closer to SF which is more secure as an economic center rather than San Jose's economy which is more transient.

Richmond is just above Berkeley and it is gentrifying fast.

[MechAndy]

Hmmmm,
I’ve read this for a while.
I’m not going to make me any friends here but here is my thoughts on this.
Not gonna sugar coat my feelings at all.
We have for the most part lived in the best areas of Contra Costa County for most of my life other than the 8-10 years or so I lived in Germany where my family and I are originally from.
Alameda County in my opinion has always been a second or a third class area at best.
Other than the hillside sections of the few chosen areas it’s the pitts and likes graffiti and window bars.
When we first got married we rented a house in Dublin for a very short time.
36 years ago or so.
I effing hated it.
Yukky stuff everywhere I looked.
We spent more than we ever had and got a place in Diablo.
That wasn’t easy by any means.
It cost me living in a suitcase for near 7 years.
At that time it was a coin toss of which was worse, Dublin or Concord.
Dublin won hands down shortly there after.
Concord went way down hill in my opinion
Recently there are a couple or maby quite a few cultivated areas closer to Silicon Valley on the 880 corridor that surpassed Contra Costa County lowest areas.
I am a still a person that would never live in alameda county other than having a very nice spot on a hill somewhere really cool.
For the most part if you are ok with nasty gangs,graffiti or sh_t like that very close to your house it ain’t all that bad.
In my oppinion if it takes less than fifty cents of gas to hit your house you are a target .
Personally I’d never put my family on the edge of a jungle.
When we bought our spot those things were important to us.
Your mileage may vary,
I still think Alameda County Sucks.
Andy

[Dave Coe]

Fremont's White population is declining to a point where it could end up lower than Oakland's. Same could be the case for the Tri-Valley. The other factor is the model of track housing.

This map shows that rise and decline of low income populations with a significant increase in Northern CC and Livermore and also Hayward and San Leandro. Gentrification mostly in the urban cores.

https://myottetm.github.io/USMapBoxI...wDispConc.html

[netaxcat]

This is from COMPASS Real Estate (just bought Pacific Union.)

Bay Area Cities Rank Among the Nation’s Best Small and Midsize U.S. Places to Live in 2018

• Santa Clara and Hayward rank among the top 10 most livable medium-sized American cities this year.
• Hayward’s median home value has shot up by 95 percent over the past five years.
• A separate analysis ranks Los Altos as the country’s seventh-best small U.S. city to call home.

The Alameda County city of Hayward comes in at No. 10 on the list, with an 89.34. Over the past five years, home values in Hayward have skyrocketed by 95 percent, the highest rate of appreciation recorded in any of the 25 cities included in SmartAsset’s analysis.

https://blog.pacificunion.com/bay-ar...-live-in-2018/