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Old 05-12-2008, 01:58 AM
 
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Default San Francisco or Seattle for a renter, which is better?

Young, motivated, will have my masters in a couple of months--expecting to make 50 plus in salary, looking to rent an apartment---is it doable in San Francisco--???I love San Francisco for the weather but I do understand it's expensive but I just want to know from those of you that rent--can I live in San Francisco and make per say $55,000 per year and live a comfortable life without struggling pay check to pay check---I have never tried to keep up the the Joneses--I don't shop or need to go out--per say---I like to go for walks, go for hikes, go to the beach ---etc...I like San Francisco because of the weather but am living pretty comfortable in Seattle, so I'm wondering if the same thing can be done? Let me know, all input welcome
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:56 AM
 
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Yes San Fran has alright weather. Kinda windy and foggy. In my opinion Oakland has the best weather in California. But other than you liking the weather, why on god's green earth would you want to move to Ca? Your far better off where your at. Trust me. I use to live in Seattle and if I had my way I'd be living there right now. Plus the living cost and housing is just too expensive. Want a good word of advise. Stay in Seattle.
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Yes San Fran has alright weather. Kinda windy and foggy. In my opinion Oakland has the best weather in California. But other than you liking the weather, why on god's green earth would you want to move to Ca? Your far better off where your at. Trust me. I use to live in Seattle and if I had my way I'd be living there right now. Plus the living cost and housing is just too expensive. Want a good word of advise. Stay in Seattle.
How are you going to tell him he's better off where he is if he's thinking about leaving? Seattle is depressing. I don't blame him.

Yes you can live in SF as a single making 50 K thousands do it on less.
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:14 PM
 
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I lived in Seattle for 5 years before I moved here. I was making $42k when I left Seattle and started at $44k here. It was a sizeable difference because:

1. There is no state tax in Washington. So, although I made $2k more here, I actually took home less.

2. I had a large one bedroom for $745/mo on Capitol Hill in Seattle. The cheapest rent I have never had here was $850/mo for a bedroom in a shared living situation. I'm now in a tiny studio for $950/mo. However, three friends who share a three bedroom next door pay $675/mo each - so cheaper rents can be found, but only in shared living situations and only if at least one person in the unit has been there a long time.

I couldn't make it here on $44k. It got to a point where I had to find a new job or leave. I make a ton more now and it's a lot easier, but I doubt I'll ever own here, at least by myself. Then again, I doubt I'd own in Seattle either.

I DEFINITELY like the weather better in SF. Seattle, IMO, has the most perfect summers I've ever experienced - it's like that in SF in Sept, Oct, and partly Nov. However, June and July are not so nice here. But, it NEVER gets as cold as Seattle and it rains way less - always amuses me when people here complain about the rain.

I think you could definitely do it on $55k.....it depends on how much debt you have.
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:08 PM
 
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Moving, San Francisco is your place you can make it on 50 grand, and what you want to do is find yourself an apartment that is covered under rent control which is any apartment building built in 1979 or before, otherwise if you get yourself a new rental you will be paying market rate and your rent will go up at market rate.

Rent control is a way to keep rents affordable if your lucky to find one, but you can get settled in then keep searching, I saw a spacious studio in Nob Hill going for 750.$ pop up all in a sudden in the rentals search, so yes it can surely happen especially when your motivated. Go for it!
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:02 PM
 
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Default Yep.. stay in Seattle

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Yes San Fran has alright weather. Kinda windy and foggy. In my opinion Oakland has the best weather in California. But other than you liking the weather, why on god's green earth would you want to move to Ca? Your far better off where your at. Trust me. I use to live in Seattle and if I had my way I'd be living there right now. Plus the living cost and housing is just too expensive. Want a good word of advise. Stay in Seattle.
Ditto to that one.
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:25 AM
 
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I would pick S.F. over Seattle. It sounds like the poster doesn't live in either, but are making after college plans. I live in Tacoma, moved from San Jose, and can't stand the weather. I would pay the extra to live in The Bay.

You could do it on that salary. You said you were motivated. If you are the sky's the limit. Do it or regret it later, that's my philosophy.
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Old 06-09-2008, 10:10 PM
 
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Default sf vs seattle

Been in SF for 2 years after 10 in Seattle; I was sick of the weather. I like the occasional heat here, and fog is a little different from the gray overhang but sometimes feel really need more heat than SF offers; culturally I prefer Seattle.

Rent-wise, I'm paying 700 (which is cheap) to live in a crappy neighborhood full of bums and crackheads. I could be in Seattle on capitol hill for the same. Sometimes I consider going back because of the cost and overall cleanliness crowdedness factor, but weather's a deterrant. Nowhere's perfect.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:58 PM
 
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Biggest challenge in SF is dealing with rental hoops, not the cost. Just because you can pay doesn't mean they'll rent to you. I recommend avoiding apartment management companies as often as possible unless they own the building and even then in many cases (cough *citi apartments* cough)
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:29 PM
 
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Is it possible to find a condo for less than $450 K in any part of SF?
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