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Unread 10-11-2010, 08:07 PM
 
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I love SoCal too! It's amazing place to live!

Northern California may be greener but that doesn't stop it from being insanely boring. my god. NorCal makes me want to like die. SoCal is just love.

 
Unread 10-11-2010, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
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1st - That's a fraction of Oakland's Skyline, and a shot taken from Jack London Square.

2nd - Those secondary skylines do not look bigger.

3rd - I said from the Nimitz Freeway, SEPERATING THE PORT OF OAKLAND FROM WEST OAKLAND.
That is where Oakland's Skyline looks like ALTERED CHILD VERSION of Los Angeles.

Factors:

1. Front view of both skylines
2. High angles of the camera
3. Flatlands completely surround the skyline

Agree to Disagree? No problem for me. It's my opinion, which is allowed to become predicated.

Oakland's Skyline from East Oakland



Oakland 2001

 
Unread 10-11-2010, 11:46 PM
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Location: Richmond, CA
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I love SoCal too! It's amazing place to live!

Northern California may be greener but that doesn't stop it from being insanely boring. my god. NorCal makes me want to like die. SoCal is just love.
Can you take a trip to NorCal please?
 
Unread 10-12-2010, 12:10 AM
 
Location: SoCAL. Where life is infinitely better.
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I used to jack all of NorCal, and realized it wasn't fair. San Jose seems nice. I bet I would hate Sacramento, but I've never lived there, so I'll have to give it the benefit of the doubt. Tahoe is a very nice area in NorCal for sure.

All I can speak on is the East Bay and some experiences in San Fran, since I lived around that area for 3 years.

I agree with you footballfreak. The majority of SoCal is "just love" compared specifically to the East Bay. That place is loaded with bad vibes. It's just a dark place. Same with Frisco from my experience. It's edgy, criminal, and grimy.

--@Stephen I can't really agree, but I can see where you're coming from. How about that? Maybe on the Altered Child version bit...it looks like the buildings are miniaturized--missing 20-30 stories off the tops.
 
Unread 10-12-2010, 01:27 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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I don't like cities that sell their whole image off of being rich, artsy, and "cultured". Cities like that are fake as hell. I'll take LA anyday over San Francisco

Whoa, wait a minute - isn't this, if anything, grossly backwards? Esp. the "fake as hell" description? One does prominently feature the entertainment industry, no? Botox, anybody?
 
Unread 10-12-2010, 03:17 AM
 
Location: SoCAL. Where life is infinitely better.
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Whoa, wait a minute - isn't this, if anything, grossly backwards? Esp. the "fake as hell" description? One does prominently feature the entertainment industry, no? Botox, anybody?

Depends on what your definition of "fake" is.

Does body modification to create an image automatically make one fake?
Then we'll have to throw tattoos, piercings, and hair coloring all in with fake boobs, botox, and plastic surgery. It's all about how one presents oneself with an image right? Well EVERYONE does that with the clothes they wear, hairstyles, ect. If that's fake then we're all guilty of it.

Now let me explain to you what "fake" is referring to in this instance with regards to San Fran.

Frisco presents itself as a high-end, cultured cosmopolitan city, that sets the trends, and is open liberal and diverse. This couldn't be further from the truth.

The city is not high-end, it's a gentrified dump.

It's not cultured because the only culture it looks to is itself. It's an incestuous little pool of close-minded thinking. "SF is the best". Yeah right. NYC owns it in every possible way.

Sets the trends? Barely...good place for the tech industry, that's about it. Fashion, art, entertainment, food...nobody gives a crap what Frisco is doing. That's not setting trends. That's not even an influence.
NYC., L.A., London, Paris, Tokyo...hell even Chicago and D.C. have more influence over the world. And most of the "content" you stream and purchase on your yay area tech devices is made right here in Los Angeles.
Without content your tech is useless.

Open? Liberal? Diverse? Not even.

Open to what? The homeless? Liberal...in politics, yes. So you're pro-gay and pro-abortion. Awesome. That doesn't make you a great city. It just makes you liberal. But hey, one aspect of liberalism is acceptance. If Frisco is so damn' accepting, then why use the word "out-of towners". Jeez if you're calling people from cities outside yours names...what do you call the immigrants from other countries?? You're close-minded, provincial little twerps. That's what you are.

I could go on an on. SF is fake city. It's not a real city. It sucks.
Anyone who's been to a real city like London, NYC, Paris, or Tokyo would know that.
 
Unread 10-12-2010, 07:03 AM
 
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Depends on what your definition of "fake" is.

Does body modification to create an image automatically make one fake?
Then we'll have to throw tattoos, piercings, and hair coloring all in with fake boobs, botox, and plastic surgery. It's all about how one presents oneself with an image right? Well EVERYONE does that with the clothes they wear, hairstyles, ect. If that's fake then we're all guilty of it.

Now let me explain to you what "fake" is referring to in this instance with regards to San Fran.

Frisco presents itself as a high-end, cultured cosmopolitan city, that sets the trends, and is open liberal and diverse. This couldn't be further from the truth.

The city is not high-end, it's a gentrified dump.

It's not cultured because the only culture it looks to is itself. It's an incestuous little pool of close-minded thinking. "SF is the best". Yeah right. NYC owns it in every possible way.

Sets the trends? Barely...good place for the tech industry, that's about it. Fashion, art, entertainment, food...nobody gives a crap what Frisco is doing. That's not setting trends. That's not even an influence.
NYC., L.A., London, Paris, Tokyo...hell even Chicago and D.C. have more influence over the world. And most of the "content" you stream and purchase on your yay area tech devices is made right here in Los Angeles.
Without content your tech is useless.

Open? Liberal? Diverse? Not even.

Open to what? The homeless? Liberal...in politics, yes. So you're pro-gay and pro-abortion. Awesome. That doesn't make you a great city. It just makes you liberal. But hey, one aspect of liberalism is acceptance. If Frisco is so damn' accepting, then why use the word "out-of towners". Jeez if you're calling people from cities outside yours names...what do you call the immigrants from other countries?? You're close-minded, provincial little twerps. That's what you are.

I could go on an on. SF is fake city. It's not a real city. It sucks.
Anyone who's been to a real city like London, NYC, Paris, or Tokyo would know that.
Thank you! This is how I have always felt! I think any American city that doesn't sell themselves as Frisco does, is a real city! These cities show what they really are. I think if a city shows it's true colors, it's got more character than fake cities like Frisco.
 
Unread 10-12-2010, 11:34 AM
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Location: San Francisco
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Jesus Christ, you trolls need to get some lives. Something about SF really pisses of the mouth breathers...

Excuse me while i enjoy life in my "fake city". I suggest you guys try and enjoy your own cities as well, rather than making repeated, uneducated, off-base rants about mine.
 
Unread 10-12-2010, 06:32 PM
 
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Depends on what your definition of "fake" is.

Does body modification to create an image automatically make one fake?
Then we'll have to throw tattoos, piercings, and hair coloring all in with fake boobs, botox, and plastic surgery. It's all about how one presents oneself with an image right? Well EVERYONE does that with the clothes they wear, hairstyles, ect. If that's fake then we're all guilty of it.

Now let me explain to you what "fake" is referring to in this instance with regards to San Fran.

Frisco presents itself as a high-end, cultured cosmopolitan city, that sets the trends, and is open liberal and diverse. This couldn't be further from the truth.

The city is not high-end, it's a gentrified dump.

It's not cultured because the only culture it looks to is itself. It's an incestuous little pool of close-minded thinking. "SF is the best". Yeah right. NYC owns it in every possible way.

Sets the trends? Barely...good place for the tech industry, that's about it. Fashion, art, entertainment, food...nobody gives a crap what Frisco is doing. That's not setting trends. That's not even an influence.
NYC., L.A., London, Paris, Tokyo...hell even Chicago and D.C. have more influence over the world. And most of the "content" you stream and purchase on your yay area tech devices is made right here in Los Angeles.
Without content your tech is useless.

Open? Liberal? Diverse? Not even.

Open to what? The homeless? Liberal...in politics, yes. So you're pro-gay and pro-abortion. Awesome. That doesn't make you a great city. It just makes you liberal. But hey, one aspect of liberalism is acceptance. If Frisco is so damn' accepting, then why use the word "out-of towners". Jeez if you're calling people from cities outside yours names...what do you call the immigrants from other countries?? You're close-minded, provincial little twerps. That's what you are.

I could go on an on. SF is fake city. It's not a real city. It sucks.
Anyone who's been to a real city like London, NYC, Paris, or Tokyo would know that.
Wow. Even though you're a bit harsh I can't really disagree with any of this, except for SF not setting trends in food.

I don't necessarily have a problem with "fakeness" (especially if it's pleasing to the eyes ) but: SF LA fake = pot kettle black.

Perhaps the most disappointing thing to me about SF was that with the exception of downtown/Nob Hill/TL, SF doesn't really feel like a big city. Every neighborhood is just so...oh, I don't know, classifiable, with the exception of maybe the Richmond. And it does feel like people have a small town mentality, meaning if you're not like us then... it's just that "like us" here is (mostly) the flipside of what "like us" in Farmville USA is. This was actually an interesting phenomenom to observe for a few years, though it got old too.

Maybe another reason it doesn't feel too big is that you go 7 miles and then that's it. It's also not (as) connected to the rest of the metro as other metros' respective cities are. I'm not talking being connected by BART. San Leandro, Walnut Creek, Daly City too for that matter in no way looks or acts like SF. Whereas in somewhere like LA, go to Torrance, Gardena, Downey, even some parts of OC and you can still tell people you're in LA and nobody will most likely bat an eye. If you're in Pleasanton and you tell people you're in SF people will look at you funny. No, SF is not sprawling, but then again that doesn't make it big. NYC isn't sprawling either but it's still huge.

I'll give SF that it is very famous on the culinary scene. It surpasses Chicago/DC/LA for sure, it's in the league of NYC and Vegas.
 
Unread 10-12-2010, 07:59 PM
 
Location: SoCAL. Where life is infinitely better.
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Wow. Even though you're a bit harsh I can't really disagree with any of this, except for SF not setting trends in food.

I don't necessarily have a problem with "fakeness" (especially if it's pleasing to the eyes ) but: SF LA fake = pot kettle black.

Perhaps the most disappointing thing to me about SF was that with the exception of downtown/Nob Hill/TL, SF doesn't really feel like a big city. Every neighborhood is just so...oh, I don't know, classifiable, with the exception of maybe the Richmond. And it does feel like people have a small town mentality, meaning if you're not like us then... it's just that "like us" here is (mostly) the flipside of what "like us" in Farmville USA is. This was actually an interesting phenomenom to observe for a few years, though it got old too.

Maybe another reason it doesn't feel too big is that you go 7 miles and then that's it. It's also not (as) connected to the rest of the metro as other metros' respective cities are. I'm not talking being connected by BART. San Leandro, Walnut Creek, Daly City too for that matter in no way looks or acts like SF. Whereas in somewhere like LA, go to Torrance, Gardena, Downey, even some parts of OC and you can still tell people you're in LA and nobody will most likely bat an eye. If you're in Pleasanton and you tell people you're in SF people will look at you funny. No, SF is not sprawling, but then again that doesn't make it big. NYC isn't sprawling either but it's still huge.

I'll give SF that it is very famous on the culinary scene. It surpasses Chicago/DC/LA for sure, it's in the league of NYC and Vegas.

I agree with you on the small town mentality for sure.

Okay I'll give it up for a food influence then. I'm not an unreasonable person.

I just was thinking what's one of the biggest trends in food right now? Gourmet food trucks.

Seems to me that started in L.A., but maybe I was just paying attention to it more here. Kogi BBQ was one of the big ones I first heard about. If it started in S.F. I'd be interested to know. I just can't imagine the gourmet food truck scene starting big in Frisco due to the hills, parking problems, crazy streets, ect...

I used to think SF was a big city, having come from San Diego. It was definitely more urban, but then I lived in NYC for a few years and came back to SF and it seemed like a small little baby town, because that's what it really is.
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