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Old 05-03-2010, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Hills & Hollers of the Aux Arcs
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Better get ready to see more of Gavin Newsom since he will likely be the next lieutenant governor of California
If he wins it, California deserves what it gets!
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Old 05-03-2010, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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If he wins it, California deserves what it gets!
Gavin is running against a LA city councilwomen in the Democratic primary & is considered a "shoo-in." The Republicans are running the current lieutenant governor, Abel Maldonado against some super right winger who has no chance in California. So it will be Newsom against Maldonado. The Republican actually has a chance in my opinion since he is a moderate and Latino but he comes from a small city, Santa Maria. But Newsom is well-known & sort of a glamorous figure who will likely win.
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Old 05-03-2010, 04:26 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Gavin is running against a LA city councilwomen in the Democratic primary & is considered a "shoo-in." The Republicans are running the current lieutenant governor, Abel Maldonado against some super right winger who has no chance in California. So it will be Newsom against Maldonado. The Republican actually has a chance in my opinion since he is a moderate and Latino but he comes from a small city, Santa Maria. But Newsom is well-known & sort of a glamorous figure who will likely win.
Outside of the Bay Area Newsom isn't really popular at all and even within the Bay Area he is not that well liked. He's well known but not really for anything good, he has so much negative baggage imo. He's a sleazebag and if he actually wins then Ca voters are by far dumber than I could ever have imagined.
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Old 05-03-2010, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Outside of the Bay Area Newsom isn't really popular at all and even within the Bay Area he is not that well liked. He's well known but not really for anything good, he has so much negative baggage imo. He's a sleazebag and if he actually wins then Ca voters are by far dumber than I could ever have imagined.
The mayor of San Francisco against a politician from Santa Maria isn't even a race. Some Republicans hate Maldonado for being like Schwarzenegger & favoring taxes. Some Republicans will not vote for Maldonado because he is Latino. Democratic voter do not hate Gavin and are the majority of voters in California. Candidates from the Bay Area have a very good track record of winning elections in California. Get ready for your next lieutenant governor from San Francisco.
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Old 05-03-2010, 04:54 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The mayor of San Francisco against a politician from Santa Maria isn't even a race.
Maldando is already Lt Gov and incumbents have a better chance of winning reelection.
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Some Republicans hate Maldonado for being like Schwarzenegger & favoring taxes.
Therefore he can get some democratic support.
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Some Republicans will not vote for Maldonado because he is Latino.
Do you have any sort of proof of that or anything to back it up besides your personal opinion?
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Democratic voter do not hate Gavin
Many do inlcuding this one and many here on C-D that also vote democrat do not like him. Read any article on SFGate.com and look at how many comments are against him, this is a paper in his own city too. Poll numbers showed Jerry Brown beating him in the Bay Area when he was considering running for governor. If he can't win in the Bay Area he can't win anywhere in this state. Very few people I know have any sort of positive opinion of him.
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and are the majority of voters in California
Doesn't seem to matter for other races, the majority of governors in CA have been republican over the last 25+ years. The current Lt. Gov is a republican, so obviously being a democrat won't get you into office just b/c one is a democrat.
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Candidates from the Bay Area have a very good track record of winning elections in California. Get ready for your next lieutenant governor from San Francisco.
That's nice and all but they don't all win and really means nothing here.
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:21 PM
 
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When people say Gavin Newsome is a sleazebag, what makes him any different than your typical politician? They ALL have mistresses. I don't agree with a lot of his views but the sleazebag thing is just pointless when discussing a politician.
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:31 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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When people say Gavin Newsome is a sleazebag, what makes him any different than your typical politician? They ALL have mistresses. I don't agree with a lot of his views but the sleazebag thing is just pointless when discussing a politician.
Too much hair gel. It's just a descriptive term, it's not like anyone delved into the issue of how he is a sleazebag. It's like calling him an idiot, not sure why the sleazebag comment bothered you so much. Plus sleeping with your friend's/employees wife is a bit over the top even for the typical sleazebag politician.

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Old 05-03-2010, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Anybody holding up Gavin Newsom's sexual affairs as a reason to not vote for him better be ready to do the same with the majority of politicians. It may be a point of shame but it is hardly out-of-the-ordinary. The real "sexual" issue is Newsom's defiance of state law by allowing gay marriage several years ago. This is why many Republicans hate Newsom but are too embarrassed to publicly admit it. But staying within the "sexual" realm, Newsom is attractive and you can be sure many woman & some men will vote for him just because he does look like a movie star. Whatever the San Francisco Chronicle comments about Gavin, most people vote for their home town leader & one can be sure that the Bay Area will strongly support Newsom over any Republican candidate.

The current lieutenant governor was recently selected by the state legislature after the Democrats finally allowed the governor's choice when the previous lieutenant governor left office to enter Congress last year. Maldonado is not well-known in California so he has that going against him. He is Latino so some Democrats will vote for him while some Republicans will not vote for him merely for his ethnicity. I don't think Maldonado will get much GOP money since he is considered marginal by them in the first place & the lieutenant governor's race doesn't get much attention anyway.

Newsom does have money & the support of the powerful Democratic party of California. For whatever reason, the favor-ability of politicians from the Bay Area always seems to translate into getting elected. But as sav858 pointsout, Republicans have done well in statewide elections for governor but that is, in part, due to the history of the GOP running very moderate candidates who haven't been all that different from Democratic governors.
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:42 PM
 
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Lieutenant Governor would actually be an ideal political job for Newsom. No responsibilities involved whatsoever!
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:32 PM
 
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Anybody holding up Gavin Newsom's sexual affairs as a reason to not vote for him better be ready to do the same with the majority of politicians. It may be a point of shame but it is hardly out-of-the-ordinary. The real "sexual" issue is Newsom's defiance of state law by allowing gay marriage several years ago. This is why many Republicans hate Newsom but are too embarrassed to publicly admit it. But staying within the "sexual" realm, Newsom is attractive and you can be sure many woman & some men will vote for him just because he does look like a movie star. Whatever the San Francisco Chronicle comments about Gavin, most people vote for their home town leader & one can be sure that the Bay Area will strongly support Newsom over any Republican candidate.

The current lieutenant governor was recently selected by the state legislature after the Democrats finally allowed the governor's choice when the previous lieutenant governor left office to enter Congress last year. Maldonado is not well-known in California so he has that going against him. He is Latino so some Democrats will vote for him while some Republicans will not vote for him merely for his ethnicity. I don't think Maldonado will get much GOP money since he is considered marginal by them in the first place & the lieutenant governor's race doesn't get much attention anyway.

Newsom does have money & the support of the powerful Democratic party of California. For whatever reason, the favor-ability of politicians from the Bay Area always seems to translate into getting elected. But as sav858 pointsout, Republicans have done well in statewide elections for governor but that is, in part, due to the history of the GOP running very moderate candidates who haven't been all that different from Democratic governors.
.... And on the other hand, some latinos will not vote for Newsom because he is not latino.
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