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Old 05-19-2010, 12:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Laocoön View Post
Americans and their cars... *Sigh*

Americans who live in easily walkable cities such as New York and San Francisco and “have to have their cars,” and worry about their cars being broken into... *Sigh*

Silly Americans.

If you've got the funds to afford having a car in San Francisco, why not spring for a garage to park it in and dispense with all the parking hassles, sundry expenses such as ding repairs, and anxieties? For that matter, why not hire a driver or hail cabs? It might actually be cheaper than renting a garage, and perhaps cheaper than the total expenses of owning and operating a car in the city altogether after you factor in car payments, insurance, gas, repairs, etc..

Why not just walk/bike/bus/train/cab it around town and rent a car for trips or take the trains? It would be significantly cheaper and certainly safer in some respects. More than likely your travel time would be quicker without taking a car, especially if you're living and working in the city. It would be a lot less trouble. And environmentally-friendly, I might add, for all you tree hugging San Franciscans who profess to be so green and environmentally-conscious.

But no, Americans HAVE to have their cars. It's the only freedom they know. All the talk about being environmentally conscious, frugal, and community-oriented is a bunch of hooey. Talk is cheap; I'm too busy watching what you do. Progressive, liberal San Franciscans want everybody else to take the bus and forego their car-dependency, but they themselves of course do not want to surrender their wheels. Hypocrites!

But they want their freedom.

Apparently they want their freedom to spend exorbitant money getting around: car payment + car insurance + ding expenses + windshield replacements + oil changes and servicing + license and registration fees + gas + tires and car parts, etc. They want the freedom to spend all this money on something they don't need and is a burden on their time and checking accounts, yet they are the same people who will complain about "the exorbitant cost of living in San Francisco."

They apparently don't mind if it will take as long or longer to get from place to place (walk to the car, drive through gridlock, get gas, wait forever at the lights, find a parking place, walk from the parking spot to the destination, etc.).

They apparently don't seem to care that their cars are contributing to the oil & energy crisis, hole in the ozone, and general pollution. But they do care about YOUR irresponsible habits.

They want their freedom to not have to rub shoulders with other people or get their pant legs a little dirty from the grime of the streets. They don’t want to have to expend the walking energy; they’d rather burn fossil fuels and spend, spend, spend, and then complain.
They want their freedom!

Silly Americans.

The experts say that socialism will eventually Europeanize this country. Now, I'm no fan of socialism or Obama, but if being Europeanized will make people wise up about their modes of transportation, help make cities more livable, thin out the congested streets, help reduce noise pollution (honking, screeching tires, and those annoying security system activation beeps, tweets, and honks), and bring people back to community-centered living and reasonable travel radii, then I say YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN!

Maybe I won’t have to apply for a German Visa after all.
Off your meds?
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:21 PM
 
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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So I'll be moving to SF for about the next 4-6 years as a student. I'm also planning to get my first car (will be securing an apartment with a dedicated garage space).

All people who so smartly ignored the details of the OP, please make a note of it.

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It's one of those devices that locks onto your steering wheel to prevent car thefts...Maybe they don't even make them anymore?? They were quite popular back in day but maybe that's old fashioned stuff now days.
Yep they still make 'em, we have one (we bought 2 years ago) for our Vintage Mini Cooper, when not parked in garage at home.

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Originally Posted by Laocoön View Post
Americans and their cars... *Sigh*

Americans who live in easily walkable cities such as New York and San Francisco and “have to have their cars,” and worry about their cars being broken into... *Sigh*

Silly Americans.

If you've got the funds to afford having a car in San Francisco, why not spring for a garage to park it in and dispense with all the parking hassles, sundry expenses such as ding repairs, and anxieties? For that matter, why not hire a driver or hail cabs? It might actually be cheaper than renting a garage, and perhaps cheaper than the total expenses of owning and operating a car in the city altogether after you factor in car payments, insurance, gas, repairs, etc..

Why not just walk/bike/bus/train/cab it around town and rent a car for trips or take the trains? It would be significantly cheaper and certainly safer in some respects. More than likely your travel time would be quicker without taking a car, especially if you're living and working in the city. It would be a lot less trouble. And environmentally-friendly, I might add, for all you tree hugging San Franciscans who profess to be so green and environmentally-conscious.

But no, Americans HAVE to have their cars. It's the only freedom they know. All the talk about being environmentally conscious, frugal, and community-oriented is a bunch of hooey. Talk is cheap; I'm too busy watching what you do. Progressive, liberal San Franciscans want everybody else to take the bus and forego their car-dependency, but they themselves of course do not want to surrender their wheels. Hypocrites!

But they want their freedom.

Apparently they want their freedom to spend exorbitant money getting around: car payment + car insurance + ding expenses + windshield replacements + oil changes and servicing + license and registration fees + gas + tires and car parts, etc. They want the freedom to spend all this money on something they don't need and is a burden on their time and checking accounts, yet they are the same people who will complain about "the exorbitant cost of living in San Francisco."

They apparently don't mind if it will take as long or longer to get from place to place (walk to the car, drive through gridlock, get gas, wait forever at the lights, find a parking place, walk from the parking spot to the destination, etc.).

They apparently don't seem to care that their cars are contributing to the oil & energy crisis, hole in the ozone, and general pollution. But they do care about YOUR irresponsible habits.

They want their freedom to not have to rub shoulders with other people or get their pant legs a little dirty from the grime of the streets. They don’t want to have to expend the walking energy; they’d rather burn fossil fuels and spend, spend, spend, and then complain.
They want their freedom!

Silly Americans.

The experts say that socialism will eventually Europeanize this country. Now, I'm no fan of socialism or Obama, but if being Europeanized will make people wise up about their modes of transportation, help make cities more livable, thin out the congested streets, help reduce noise pollution (honking, screeching tires, and those annoying security system activation beeps, tweets, and honks), and bring people back to community-centered living and reasonable travel radii, then I say YES WE CAN, YES WE CAN!

Maybe I won’t have to apply for a German Visa after all.

Holy crap! I'm dizzy just from reading your conversation with yourself. Please go to a doctor ASAP and get your medication adjusted, the only person hearing those voices is you.

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Originally Posted by clongirl View Post
WTF?

You've really got some serious problems that nobody here wants to know about.
Amen sister!

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Originally Posted by Davachka View Post
The only point I am going to second in this is, yes, why not narrow down your rental search to solely places with a garage? That would very much calm your nerves regarding breakins.....

BTW- Laocoon, I am not American either, but know better than to generalize and insult a whole culture....
Amen again!

To the OP, your friend probably got that information about the Honda Accord from an insurance company. The Honda Accord has been number one on the stolen list for ages now.

See also: http://editorial.autos.msn.com/slide...mentid=1085873

If you don't want to have to worry about the car, there's always zipcar :

find cars – Zipcar

and City CarShare - San Francisco, Berkeley, Oakland, El Cerrito, Albany, Daly City, CA USA
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