2009: Oakland crime decreased twice as fast as nat'l average (Montclair: legal, move)
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Asian American white collar workers earn even more than their white counterparts on average, and they were victims of racism, and endured economic oppression on the same level as the American Black. Chinese Americans couldn't even use the same bathrooms are Whites until the 1960s. I also didn't see any Chinese people getting into the University of Alabama in the 60s.
Claiming that racism and slavery are the only factors as to why black communities are full of crime and poverty is a cop-out. An old, tired, cop out.
Asian American white collar workers earn even more than their white counterparts on average, and they were victims of racism, and endured economic oppression on the same level as the American Black. I didn't see any Chinese people getting into the University of Alabama in the 60s.
Claiming that racism and slavery are the only factors as to why black communities are full of crime and poverty is a cop-out. An old, tired, cop out.
Dude, you had your a$$ handed to you all day in this thread and I can see that you're a glutton for punishment. While Asians haven't always been treated well, what kind of drugs are you on to compare their treatment to blacks?
I'm educated, and well mannered, why would I compare a message board discussion to a physical confrontation? That doesn't make any sense to me. I'm simply bringing up facts. So far, me and Think About It have brought up valid points about black communities being full of crime.
The only responses we've gotten so far is, "They're full of crime because of slavery."
None of you were alive during slavery, and unless you are in you 50s-60s, not alive during the Civil Rights Movement either. Not to mention Asian Americans suffered just as greatly with underlying racism back then, and even today. Yet I don't drive through Rowland Heights thinking I'm going to get mugged by some Chinese kids. Why is that?
There comes a point in time when you have to take responsibility for your own actions and stop seeking reparations from something that happened when you weren't even alive. People commit crimes because they don't have respect for other human beings, plain and simple.
I'm educated, and well mannered, why would I compare a message board discussion to a physical confrontation? That doesn't make any sense to me. I'm simply bringing up facts. So far, me and Think About It have brought up valid points about black communities being full of crime.
The only responses we've gotten so far is, "They're full of crime because of slavery."
None of you were alive during slavery, and unless you are in you 50s-60s, not alive during the Civil Rights Movement either. Not to mention Asian Americans suffered just as greatly with underlying racism back then, and even today. Yet I don't drive through Rowland Heights thinking I'm going to get mugged by some Chinese kids. Why is that?
Slavery is a tired cop out, plain and simple.
Look at this guy:
Can his crime be blamed on slavery too?
There comes a point in time when you have to take responsibility for your own actions and stop seeking reparations from something that happened when you weren't even alive. People commit crimes because they don't have respect for other human beings, plain and simple.
You don't buy it because you don't live it...
Nobody said that slavery justified crime. However, the reason why there's higher crime in the poor black community in this country has a whole lot to do with slavery and segregation being in the very recent past.
And I don't need to convince you of it nor do I need your validation... I doubt you've ever given the subject a lot of thought to begin with. Any amount of research into the dynamics I'm talking about would make the large majority of what I'm talking about obvious. Either that or you're looking through some seriously tinted rose colored glasses...
Nobody said that slavery justified crime. However, the reason why there's higher crime in the poor black community in this country has a whole lot to do with slavery and segregation being in the very recent past.
See this is the kind of attitude that makes me think you're not giving the topic any serious thought. Basically you're saying, "White people need to be blamed for the crime and poverty in black communities because of slavery and segregation. I don't need to prove anything because it's obvious."
Then I posted how a 50 year old black parolee killed a 17 year old girl because he wanted her money and car. Is that crime because of slavery and segregation or is it because of the inherent evil he had within him which he couldn't control?
Slavery was a horrible part of American history. So was the era of segregation. But in terms of social progression, that was a very long time ago. The current President of the United States is a black guy for crying out loud. If he cried about slavery all the time, and car jacked people because of it, would he be where he is now?
I think blaming black crime on slavery is actually more disrespectful towards black people than anything the KKK could come up with. It's an open admission that black people have no control over their own actions, and that committing a crime isn't actually a moral choice for them, it's just something they inherently have to do because of what white people did 150 years ago. Do you really want to make the point that black people are inherently criminals and need "more time" to rehabilitate?
Okay fine. How long do you get to blame white people on black communities being poor and full of crime? You still never answered that question. Do white people ever get to be forgiven for slavery and segregation or is that just something white people have to deal with for eternity?
There comes a point in time when you have to take responsibility for your own actions and stop seeking reparations from something that happened when you weren't even alive.
We as a nation have not made restitution for how blacks were treated for over 3 centuries. We just granted them freedom, gave them civil rights and then said, okay, now be like white people.
That's like trying to get someone who lost their eyesight to drive a car.
Simply changing the law and saying "Im sorry" is really not enough to heal centuries of degradation and abuse.
These things take time.
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People commit crimes because they don't have respect for other human beings, plain and simple.
People act out with the same aggression with which they were treated.
We as a nation have not made restitution for how blacks were treated for over 3 centuries. We just granted them freedom, gave them civil rights and then said, okay, now be like white people.
That's like trying to get someone who lost their eyesight to drive a car.
Simply changing the law and saying "Im sorry" is really not enough to heal centuries of degradation and abuse.
These things take time.
People act out with the same aggression with which they were treated.
Exactly!
Mr. Crap...er...Fantastic, are you aware that blacks (and I think other minorities as well) only have temporary voting rights? This was something that was never revisited. But of course, we should just move on and forget about it right?
We as a nation have not made restitution for how blacks were treated for over 3 centuries. We just granted them freedom, gave them civil rights and then said, okay, now be like white people.
That's like trying to get someone who lost their eyesight to drive a car.
Simply changing the law and saying "Im sorry" is really not enough to heal centuries of degradation and abuse.
These things take time.
Okay, how much time? How long do black people get to use white people as the cause of black crime?
What type of restitution to black people deserve in your opinion?
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People act out with the same aggression with which they were treated.
This doesn't make sense. The black gang bangers in West Oakland never experienced slavery or segregation. Their aggression is a result of being badly treated by who again?
Mr. Crap...er...Fantastic, are you aware that blacks (and I think other minorities as well) only have temporary voting rights? This was something that was never revisited. But of course, we should just move on and forget about it right?
That's not true. You simply aren't well read on the law.
You're referring to the Voting Rights Act which was extended in 2006 and originally signed by Lyndon Johnson. It doesn't "give minorities the right to vote", it puts into place certain protections that make the requirements for voting easier.
For instance, one of the sections talks about not allowing states to require a "literacy test" as it could be potentially used to keep those of lower academic achievement from voting. It also states that bilingual ballots are a requirement.
It doesn't say "Black people and minorities have the right to vote", that's an inalienable right described in the 15th Amendment. Voting is a constitutional right for U.S Citizens.
To be honest, I think certain parts of the Voting Rights Act should be taken out. Barring a disability, if you can't read, or you don't learn the primary language of the country, I find it hard to believe that you are in tune with the issues and politics of this country. It's scary that they allow people like that to vote.
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